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ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

(OP)
I am required to get this to qualify as company welding engineer (despite my having used it for many years, but never mind).
Besides ASME, who offers this training? I am located in Ontario.

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

CASTI

Usually courses are based out of Edmonton or Calgary. Don't know of any offhand in ONT.

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

My suggestion is to check ASME for classes/training offered for
Section IX. Or you can attend an ASME B&PV Code meeting, which on occasion offers, the Section IX class.

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

Code West provides classes in Section IX They have classes in a number of major US cities.

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

Hartford Steam Boiler Inspection and Insurance Co. offers an ASME Section IX online course. You can find on their website

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

I know some of them. My feel is, training on commonly used code such as ASME Sec-IX is nothing but a waste of time and money.
Many of the essential/non essential/supplementary essential variables, which a welding engineer should know, are never explained properly in these training(typically 1 or 2 day duration). It's just wishy washy and skims on the surface.
Where are you located in Ontario?
You may do google-search, to find the list of training providers in Ontario(usually in Toronto) and go from there.
Thanks.

Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE
Welding & Metallurgical Specialist
Ontario,Canada.
ca.linkedin.com/pub/pradip-goswami/5/985/299

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

Pradip,
This training is mandatory. I have inhabited Section IX for much of my career, so I could pass the exam tomorrow without taking a course. I agree, much activity that passes as training is pretty superficial, but I have to believe that a three-day course given by someone like Sperko would be well worth it.
Who does this training for OPG?

"If you don't have time to do the job right the first time, when are you going to find time to repair it?"

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

Hi Brimstoner,

I'm not sure who offers such trainings for OPG at this point. I attended these trainings in the past by the local providers. Just waste of money if one pays out of own pocket, if paid by the company it's fine. Many of these coursework is just twist of the language, not on problems and offered solutions to the welding engineers.
Sec IX is a practical and straightforward code. Read, understand and apply in real life scenarios on welding problems related to BPV coded design & fabrication issues, other problems... etc.

I believe ASME has a comprehensive training & coursework related to Sec-IX an other BPV codes.

Thanks.

Pradip Goswami,P.Eng.IWE
Welding & Metallurgical Specialist
Ontario,Canada.
ca.linkedin.com/pub/pradip-goswami/5/985/299

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

Just a few offered by ASME. See their website for more. I followed the B31.3 combo course, the last was about about welding/sec IX. That day was presented by (I forgot his name, Phil Flenner?) some committee member from sec IX. That was a huge advantage, as you can prepare very specific questions up front and ask the guy who should know the answer. Furthermore, these people seem to be very nice and kind, and really want to take their time to help you. Nevertheless, other courses can also be very useful (but I doubt if most of them will reach the same tehcnical expertise).

https://www.asme.org/products/courses/bpv-code-sec...
https://www.asme.org/products/courses/bpv-code-section-ix-welding-brazing-fusing-(1)
https://www.asme.org/products/courses/overview-wel...
https://www.asme.org/products/courses/bpv-code-sec...
https://www.asme.org/products/courses/essentials-b...
http://www.sheridancommunicationsinc.com/ASME/2017...

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

XL83NL;
I mentioned earlier in my reply to go to ASME, which I fully agree with your recommendation. I know most of the ASME Instructors are committee members and understand the Code. I tried to break into teaching several of the courses as a committee member but that is a tough nut to crack. Some of these Instructors like the added income that teaching brings from ASME courses. Maybe someday....

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

Hi metengr, I guess I was too lazy to read all replies, but now that you mention ..

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

While I could have presented the ASME IS Course that I took, I did not feel that it was a waste of time. It added to my PE credit and the people that I met and ensuing discussions over beers at the bar were always welcome.

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

(OP)
metengr,
Turns out I am going to the ASME course.
Based on the quality of your posts and the breadth of your knowledge I will recommend you to ASME, for what it's worth!

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

ironic metallurgist;
Wise decision on the ASME course. Also, I truly appreciate the endorsement.

RE: ASME Section IX Training for Engineer

(OP)
I ended up at the ASME course in Houston, taught by Walter Sperko. It was very good.
The three days were fairly crammed. It was a very mixed bag of attendees. I feel for those with limited knowledge of steel welding metallurgy; it really helps to know that because it to a large extent dictates the logic and structure of Section IX.
I would have passed the final exam anyway (there actually wasn't one), but I picked up a few nuggets and had a few nagging questions answered. Mostly I gained a more systematic approach to writing and reviewing procedures. The history and origin of some of the rules and concepts was quite interesting, and the perspective from a longtime committee member was insightful. I can't imagine any of the competing courses would be as good.
Thanks to all respondents.
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