Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
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I am currently working on creating a smarter title block for the company that I work for. We do not scale views (always show as 1:1) and scale the drawing sheet to fit. I have created a drawing template that is connected to the boarders of the drawing. When we do change the size of the sheet the title block, revisions block, and note stay in the correct corner of the drawing.
The main issue that I am having now is that changing the sheet size to 100" X 200" the letters are no longer visible. Is there a way to use the sheet size linked to and expressions that changes the cell sizes and character sizes of the the title block feature?
We use to have a dumb curves in our title block and we would just scale the lines and text.
If anyone could advise in this scenario that would be a great help.
The main issue that I am having now is that changing the sheet size to 100" X 200" the letters are no longer visible. Is there a way to use the sheet size linked to and expressions that changes the cell sizes and character sizes of the the title block feature?
We use to have a dumb curves in our title block and we would just scale the lines and text.
If anyone could advise in this scenario that would be a great help.





RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
Ronald van den Broek
Senior Application Engineer
Winterthur Gas & Diesel Ltd
NX9 / TC10.1.2
Building new PLM environment from Scratch using NX11 / TC11
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
Ronald van den Broek
Senior Application Engineer
Winterthur Gas & Diesel Ltd
NX9 / TC10.1.2
Building new PLM environment from Scratch using NX11 / TC11
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
Ronald van den Broek
Senior Application Engineer
Winterthur Gas & Diesel Ltd
NX9 / TC10.1.2
Building new PLM environment from Scratch using NX11 / TC11
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
Why wouldn't you want to scale the view to fit the sheet?
This sounds like the old AutoCAD days where people would draw everything in "model space" at 1:1 scale, then just use a 'scale' command to edit the border/title block to fit the part. It's completely backwards to what I was taught to do on the board, and backwards from what is commonplace in the CAD world.
I'm sorry to get off on a tangent, but... is there some special requirement that forces you not to scale your views to fit a B-Size sheet? I don't know what one would even do with a 200" x 300" sheet. If you're making 1:1 scale drawings for some sort of 2D manufacturing process (laser, router, waterjet, plasma torch, drag knife, etc) then why not export a DXF to go with your scaled B-Size sheet, that one would use to program from?
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
I appreciate your concern, but I am looking for a solution to this problem with scaling the table sizes.
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
If you want to be able to read it on the computer when looking at the entire sheet, my advice would be to create a second title block that is scaled up and placed outside the drawing sheet limits. That way when you print it on paper, the giant title block would not be printed and just the regular sized one will print. But on the computer you can still fit it all in and read the larger one.
Am I misunderstanding what you are doing? To create a title block that actually scales up and down? As strange as it seems, I would say how if I knew how. Sorry.
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
I understand that this is a strange request, but this is a company standard and it is not going to change. I am just trying to work in the boundary that are set for me.
I would like to have the title block remain the same size on the printed A or B size paper and change on the sheet to reflect this.
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
Doesnt that essentially for all practical purposes do the same thing as just scaling your views down to fit the sheet size that is 1:1? When you dimension them, the dimensions will still show the 1:1 dimensions sizes.
I dont mean to argue with you. Forgive me for that. I am just curious as to why one would do it this way. What is the benefit?
But whether I understand or not, I cant think of any other way other than to use some kind of expressions so lines change according to other lines. Sorry I cant help more.
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
The smaller line will now stay one half the length of the longer line, however long I make that line. Once you create the title block and make the dimensions to each of he lines all change according to the size of one border line of the sheet, you can move the dimensions to a separate layer and turn that layer off.
This would essentially make it so that when you import the part file that has the border and title block, then change the length of the one border line to match the size you need, the title block would scale accordingly.
I still think it all comes down to the same thing and you are better off just scaling the views, but if its the title block you want to scale, this is the way I can think of to do it. However, scaling the lettering may be a different animal.
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
As for your suggestion, I believe that we can only use tables with the NX title block feature. I tried using a sketch as well as an associative line but would not work with the title block feature.
I already have a file that will pull the sheet size, I just need a function that will modify the table.
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
Unfortunately, I cant help you more as when it comes to a title block feature, I dont know. I wonder if it would be possible to create a journal with a button that would select the title block and measure a border line and scale the title block accordingly. Unfortunately I am weak with code. Sorry.
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
RE: Smart Title Block - Scaling Tables with Sheet Size change
If you're going to push for change, I'd suggest that.