Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
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I'm inspecting some safety critical facade installations which the contractor has installed using a different type of epoxy than what is on the sealed shop drawings. As the Special Inspector I told them they needed to get the changes approved by the EOR but they only got an email statement from the staff engineer approving the change. I've since told them they need to get the EOR, who sealed the drawing to approve the change. By the way engineer who sealed the drawing does not work at the design engineers office but it appears he was hired to presumably review and seal the drawing since he has licensure in this state.
Do others agree with my logic here or should I accept the design engineers approval? It just seems like the liability and responsibility has become obscured and I do not want to expose myself to what should be the engineers liability.
Do others agree with my logic here or should I accept the design engineers approval? It just seems like the liability and responsibility has become obscured and I do not want to expose myself to what should be the engineers liability.






RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
They may accuse you of being persnickety, but when they say "what's the big deal, it's just epoxy," you can reply, "great. Since it's no big deal the EOR should be able to bounce a reply right back." The EOR will appreciate the heads up that they've chosen to tweak the design.
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
you should check the staff engineer for licensure online at the secretary of state website, but know that it is not uncommon either for unlicensed staff to handle the processing of submittals and still be under responsible charge of a licensed engineer.
okay.. so those are my warnings for throwing stones in how you handle it.
the Special Inspector is responsible for reviewing that Duties and Responsibilities of the project team are handled in a transparent way consistent with the building code. It is clear that you are unsure who the EOR is for the Construction Phase. The submittal review should be done under the charge of the EOR. All correspondence from you should include the EOR on the distribution list and that list can be expanded to include his/her project manager, but never just the PM when they tell you they will forward.
Send an email to the distribution list and say that construction phase is underway so you need to add the EOR to your distribution list. Ask them to confirm the EOR hasn't changed and is engaged in construction services, and if not then who will be the new EOR for construction phase. If you get a reply, call the EOR and sort it out. If you get no reply or an unsatisfactory replay, reply all to that email and issue a discrepancy notice.
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
I've done a lot of consulting for "a major theme park near Orlando", which had its own building code in addition to the mandated building code, and one of the major issues they protect is any overhead attachment. They require redundant attachment on almost everything overhead. Your application apparently has no redundancy.
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
The situation is made worse by the GC not understanding the situation and the installer not speaking english or being trained correctly. My last report summarized the situation well so hopefully this will be resolves next week.
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
RE: Who approves field changes, EOR or Staff Engineer?
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