hand planer
hand planer
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Guys,
I like wood working and planer is one of my favorite tools. i'm familiar with the planer that is made from wood (as it is normal in this part of the world).
I notice that in UK and US, people more comfortable with metal made planer. So, i actually want to buy one to try, unfortunately the price to import from those countries are not cheap.
I'm thinking to make one on my own. Found below model from GrabCAD. What do you guys think? Will it work? From this model, i can generate variable length of planer.
I like wood working and planer is one of my favorite tools. i'm familiar with the planer that is made from wood (as it is normal in this part of the world).
I notice that in UK and US, people more comfortable with metal made planer. So, i actually want to buy one to try, unfortunately the price to import from those countries are not cheap.
I'm thinking to make one on my own. Found below model from GrabCAD. What do you guys think? Will it work? From this model, i can generate variable length of planer.





RE: hand planer
The fixing of the blade with those two bolts/knob/screws is the most critical aspect of planes. If you screw that up like major planer makers do the tool is rendered useless. The last Stanley I purchased was so screwed up in that aspect I couldn't use it and returned it.
Keith Cress
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RE: hand planer
RE: hand planer
The frame is often cast iron I believe.
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
RE: hand planer
Most planes, even from decent quality manufacturers (mine are made by Record), arrive from the factory needing a tune-up. There's the cap iron/chip breaker that goes on the blade, that most people don't understand how to set or use. The throat (the point where the blade extends through the sole) is often too narrow to allow chips to be cleared effectively- on some planes you can adjust this, on others you need to file the opening larger. Then there's the blade hold-down and tilt angle adjustments which itsmoked talked about, which are a finicky affair... They're a surprisingly complex little device- but once you get them set up properly, with a freshly sharpened blade, there's little more satisfying than when you get the thing "singing" and stripping beautiful continuous curls of wood off the work. Still, life is short and most of my planing is done by machinery just in the interest of uniformity and time.
RE: hand planer
RE: hand planer
Please keep us updated on your progress, and pitfalls.
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RE: hand planer
If you intend to make a blade, I would suggest O1 or M2, something with at least 90 points of carbon that can be taken upward of 60RC.
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RE: hand planer
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trks...
But even if you do decide the build your own, as for the cutting blade itself, I would avoid stainless steel, as it's not that good holding an edge. Besides, that's the one item that I would just buy and build your 'plane' around whatever blade you can find. Again, eBay can be a good source:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Bench-Jack-Plane-2-Iro...
But considering what the model you posted looks like, you could buy it for pretty cheap:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hand-Plane-2-Blade-9-3-4-L...
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RE: hand planer
The rear handle, the one that you normally push on, tilts the wrong way.
It should be ~perpendicular to the blade.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
RE: hand planer
https://youtu.be/zn9nxsV6fxE
I think this guy makes plans for a lot of his builds - you could check out his website.
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RE: hand planer
http://www.finewoodworking.com/author/james-krenov
http://www.phillyplanes.co.uk/
http://www.holteyplanes.com/
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meanwhile, i'm still searching for cheaper price on the net including the transport charge.
Mike, i saw some of the planer like what you said, but most of them are always non perpendicular. i can only say that most probably, perpendicular blade will give better cutting force?
RE: hand planer
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
RE: hand planer
You're supposed to be using the blade to cut the wood, not to scrape it. Even if it worked, making the wood take a 90º bend will be extremely tiresome to the user.
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RE: hand planer
... and has many fewer parts.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
RE: hand planer
RE: hand planer
Hand planes are not antiques- Record, Stanley etc. still make them every day. It is extremely unlikely that making one will be cheaper than buying one, irrespective of how expensive imports to Malaysia might be. If you're going to make a plane, making a wooden box plane is much easier, and although they can be finnicky to use, I have a few and use them from time to time.
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RE: hand planer
There are planes that I could get you here for just a few dollars.
If shipping was reasonable one of us (me) could ship you one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/192042101215?lpid=82&...
I actually own 3 of these.
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P.E. Metallurgy, Plymouth Tube
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Ed, thanks a lot for your kind offer. I actually found a cheaper solution from one of the website with reasonable shipping cost.
and already purchased it. Gonna wait for delivery from US to Singapore (owh yea, i worked in Singapore and live in Malaysia, so sometimes it is cheaper to send parcel from oversea to Singapore rather than directly to Malaysia) maybe 2-3 weeks.
http://list.qoo10.sg/g/504131174
I will give a try to it (it's a simple hand plane, as i said, i just want to have a feel of how a metal hand plane works) and let you guys know.
RE: hand planer
A sharp blade and nice thin long cuts will make life better.
And make sure that you are going with the grain.
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RE: hand planer
http://www.record-planes.com/
http://www.recordhandplanes.com/
General opinion among my woodworking / cabinet-making friends is that 'old' Record planes are far, far better than 'new' Record planes. They have pretty much all acquired their 'old' ones from disposals from school and college workshops where the old skills are no longer taught. I have a 'new' Record No. 4 plane which they mock, and an 'old' No. 7 jointer which they envy. I think it dates from the 1960's although it could be early 1970's. I must say I do prefer the feel of the older plane where I can use the extra length and weight, and I'm careful with it in a way that I'm not with the 'new' one - that one gets all the rough jobs to deal with!
RE: hand planer
S$42 = US$30.
This plane is likely to be a piece of junk at this price, so in all probability you will not be happy with it.
Certainly it will not give you the "feel" of a good all-metal plane.
For reference, good modern all-metal planes http://www.leevalley.com/US/garden/page.aspx?p=489...
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RE: hand planer
RE: hand planer
As a hand tool, maybe a bit less so, because of the tiny thumbscrews and no obvious place to push on it.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
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I have a cheapy Harbor Freight plane for quick jobs (like removing the bottom of a sticking door)... now THAT thing is finicky for blade setup.
Dan - Owner
http://www.Hi-TecDesigns.com
RE: hand planer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ubcNB9ZChY&t=...
all mentioned in the video about the planer are true. what can you expect from a cheap tool.