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Whats dif fired and unfired pressure vessel? construction and inservice code for this .

Whats dif fired and unfired pressure vessel? construction and inservice code for this .

Whats dif fired and unfired pressure vessel? construction and inservice code for this .

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please explain me difference between fired and unfired pressure vessel

RE: Whats dif fired and unfired pressure vessel? construction and inservice code for this .

One has direct flame (fire) applied to it, and the other doesn't.

RE: Whats dif fired and unfired pressure vessel? construction and inservice code for this .

There is always some discussion when you have a pressure vessel which has a flame inside, but the vessel is equipped with refractory. In that case the vessel is considered unfired as there is no risk of flame impingement on the pressure retaining parts.
I have not found this properly explained in ASME code. Does anybody have any reference of where this situation is well described/classified?

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RE: Whats dif fired and unfired pressure vessel? construction and inservice code for this .

What would be the proper code of construction for a pressure vessel which is heated by flue gases, but has no direct flame contact; section VIII Div 1?
PS: this pressure vessel does not contain water, nor does it have any relation/comparison with a steam boiler. The process in my case is something completely different.

RE: Whats dif fired and unfired pressure vessel? construction and inservice code for this .

Section VIII has been used in similar service/design conditions.

RE: Whats dif fired and unfired pressure vessel? construction and inservice code for this .

Perhaps a brief review of BPV code development might help...

The founders of the original ASME code recognized the increased danger to the public of a fired (heated) pressure vessel. In the mid to late 1800s, explosions in factories and on steamships were common. There were no uniform rules across the states for matters such as settings or even for the need for relief valves.

It was recognized that overheating of the boiler was a constant possibility.

Boiler repairs were haphazard, up to the craftsman and dangerous...

After many deaths and property destruction, a code to address "fired pressure vessels" was developed.

Mandatory relief devices were required, quality materials were defined and approved methods of assembly (riveting and eventually welding) were specified.

LATER, a similar section of the code (unfired vessels) was developed with slightly higher allowable stresses and slightly more liberal rules was developed.

https://www.asme.org/engineering-topics/articles/b...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASME_Boiler_and_Pres...)

So some of the differences in the unfired vs. fired parts of the ASME B&PV code is due to the history of development....

Comments anyone ???

MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer

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