want to replace european motor with american one.
want to replace european motor with american one.
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Hi, ,first time user and poster. Here's my problem. I need to replace this electric motor with one I can find here in the states.
This all I cna get off the German motor.
single phase
Nr.1209164
Typ LBF56/4B-11
230 volts, 50 hertz
0.85 amps
1390 RPM 0.07 kw
0.10 horse power
IP 54
Ins. cl F
50 C
There is a red sticker on the gear box it reads:
B9
Typ13FW
i=295
I want to replace this one with a 120 volt 60 hertz motor. I do not know the shaft size or the key. I know it is a right angle motor attached by a flange. It periodically turns on to turn a belt to feed components into a hopper. It does have a capacitor as well. Am I able to get any shaft or key information from what is listed on the motor? I am not familier with these things and any help would be great.
Also I failed to mention this motor is being fed 120 volts, 60 hertz. Thats why we have problems with it. Electrical can't be changed so the motor has to.
Thank you,
Chris
This all I cna get off the German motor.
single phase
Nr.1209164
Typ LBF56/4B-11
230 volts, 50 hertz
0.85 amps
1390 RPM 0.07 kw
0.10 horse power
IP 54
Ins. cl F
50 C
There is a red sticker on the gear box it reads:
B9
Typ13FW
i=295
I want to replace this one with a 120 volt 60 hertz motor. I do not know the shaft size or the key. I know it is a right angle motor attached by a flange. It periodically turns on to turn a belt to feed components into a hopper. It does have a capacitor as well. Am I able to get any shaft or key information from what is listed on the motor? I am not familier with these things and any help would be great.
Also I failed to mention this motor is being fed 120 volts, 60 hertz. Thats why we have problems with it. Electrical can't be changed so the motor has to.
Thank you,
Chris





RE: want to replace european motor with american one.
The shaft size issue may be able to be addressed at the coupling, assuming there is one, but if the motor is directly coupled to the gearbox, that might not be the case. If you have a machine shop available, you could in theory have someone customize the gear hub I suppose. Don't custmize the motor shaft because theme every time the motor must be replaced, it will need the shaft to be modified.
A better option in my mind is to find a metric motor that's available here with the right shaft size and mounting type, but buy a 230V 3 phase version. Then at this size, you can easily find a VFD that will accept 115V single phase input and provide a 230V 3 phase output. They are very common up to about 1-1/2HP. You may not need to change the speed, but the good thing is that you can set it to put out 50Hz for the motor.
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Chris
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Chris
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ATB are a decent brand, I wouldn't scrap it without good cause. Ground your secondary neutral, and provide overload protection for the motor.
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Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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It will not produce full torque. To develop full torque the volts per Hertz ratio must be maintained.
230 Volts at 50 Hz is a 4.6 Volts per Hertz ratio.
That works out to a maximum voltage of 276 Volts at 60 Hertz.
For a motor this small a transformer should not cost too much.
Try the motor with a 120 Volt to 240 Volt transformer.
It will probably work OK.
The speed will change in the ratio of 60Hz/50Hz.
Bill
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Chris
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