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THRU vs. THROUGH

THRU vs. THROUGH

THRU vs. THROUGH

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I did a search and could not find any threads talking about this...

So my question is... Can/should "THRU" be used in drawing notes or view titles?

We always have and always will use the spelling "THRU" in the context of a hole note/feature on a part.
In my short 15yrs working with/creating government drawing packages I have never seen the spelling "THROUGH" use in the above instance.

BUT, from time to time I have seen "THROUGH" used in drawing notes. E.G. "...ITEMS -1 THROUGH -16 ARE FOR REFERENCE ONLY..."
I have also seen "THRU" used in that same instance. E.G. "...ITEMS -1 THRU -16 ARE FOR REFERENCE ONLY..."

Grammatically I know in formal writings that "THROUGH" is always supposed to be used over "THRU" with exceptions to popular branding such as "DRIVE-THRU".
In the engineering field, particularly on the government side, is there a right or wrong here? Has it changed over the years? What do you primarily use in both instances discussed above?

THANKS!!

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Yes, I've always used the word 'THRU' as an appropriate term and I can't recall anyone objecting to it.

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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

"THRU" is an approved abbreviation for "through" in ASME Y14.38 Abbreviations and Acronyms for Use on Drawings and Related Documents. However, for written construction specifications per the CSI Construction Specifications Practice Guide, "through" is preferred.

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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

I'm British so I would use "to" as in "1 to 16".bigsmile

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

But when I see something like "1 to 16", it leaves me thinking "Does that include 16 or not." Whereas, "1 thru 16" is less ambiguous, at least that's my humble opinion.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Thank you Kenat.thumbsup2

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

This morning, I bought coffee at a drive to.

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

And they walk on the pavement and put their groceries in the boot.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

..put their shopping in the boot.

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Sorry, the grocer's is where they did their shopping.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

If I abbreviate through to "thru" I always use thru' to indicate it has been abbreviated.

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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

"Your point TenPenny? "

I was under the impression that an amusing play on words would be amusing in a thread about language. I did not realize that some members were suffering from such a disability that it would cause such a wave of consternation.

Kenat, you aren't normally such a Richard.

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

If I misunderstood intent then I apologize.

Persons from one English speaking region trying to impose their syntax etc. on English speakers from another region without understanding societal norms has been a recurring issue in this forum - so I may have over reacted. Or just been in a bad mood, it happens.

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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

If every one spoke the Queens English as it's meant to be spoke,there wouldn't be any conflicts, unless you're a Cockney, a Geordie, a Scouse, a Scotsman, or a Yank.And not forgetting the Aussie's,the Kiwi's, and Yarpies, won't mention the Canadians as they aren't sure which language to use.

It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Don't forget ESL-speaking people. The largest English-speaking group today is, probably, Chinese. smile

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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Ha, I have been off the group for a few years and I come back and see some of the old crew again. Well to add to your comments here...
CheckerHater, the largest English-speaking group is definitely the Yanks...I assume we are talking in girth?

high speed image capture, that's me..

RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Sorry, but that inner circle should have more layers, and perhaps a few polka dots.

Inner layer British English (I'm being generous to places like Newcastle, and offensive to Ireland by throwing them in this category).

Next layer Native English Commonwealth i.e. Australia, New Zealand ...

Next layer mostly Native English Commonwealth with strong second European language influence i.e. South Africa, Canada ...

Then USA English & then the existing illustration.

(It's like the explanations of layers of particles in an atom, the more you look the more layers there are)winky smile

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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

I don't see any difference in clarity between "1 to 16" and "1 thru 16". I would always add "inclusive" to the end to eliminate ambiguity.

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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

I am so thru with this thread!

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Me too. Irregardless of the fact that I've learnt probly 1 to 16 things that I'm purdy sure I didn't no beforehand, we should give this thread the trunk.

Er, I meant boot...


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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Quote (Oxford Dictionary)

North American
informal spelling of through

Quote (Merriam Webster)

Definition of thru
less common spelling of through

Quote (Collins English Dictionary)

Thru' is sometimes used a written abbreviation for through.
[mainly US]
Just something I threw out.

Bill
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RE: THRU vs. THROUGH

Quote (jraef)


Irregardless of the fact...

Since this is a "language/grammar" forum, I feel the need to point out that contrary to popular belief (and most spellcheckers), "irregardless" is not actually a word winky smile

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UG/NX Museum:

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It's finding someone you can't live without

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