×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!
  • Students Click Here

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

Jobs

Holes representation

Holes representation

Holes representation

(OP)
I'm looking at Europe Aerospace giant files and i can't understand how holes are created. There are no sketches, no points, no nothing.

I really liked the way they represent holes. I have several models with more than 1000 holes and it's a nightmare if i have to change something inside 3D. It takes forever to update the drawing.

Any thoughts will be really appreciated.

Cheers,
Jenia ladkov

RE: Holes representation

(OP)
Thanks. I believe they use both (fasteners license and CAA apps.).

RE: Holes representation

I don't know, don't dismiss the cost of these things, automotive body-in-white fastening is maybe 20K$ for one license. And P3 platform only, which is another significant added cost. So, big company...small company. All will prefer to screw around instead of investing in software when the pricetag is that steep. The fact that you don't even know for sure definitely already shows a lack of proper supplier communications.

Another day in the life of an inefficient world!

RE: Holes representation

Hi,

JeniaL, its called HnF plug-in (if I remember correctly), it was developed special for Airbus (hope I'm not wrong smile ) , and you have points and surfaces where you have to define all those final holes...I worked with that and is pretty easy to use it...with a little knowledge of programming, I believe it can be developed something similar but a little bit simplified...

Regards
Fernando

https://picasaweb.google.com/102257836106335725208 - Romania
https://picasaweb.google.com/103462806772634246699... - EU

RE: Holes representation

(OP)
Ferdo you are absolutely right.It is Airbus. I can see no links to other geometry inside CATPart.
I believe such Giant may invest 20k and even more for a seat.

RE: Holes representation

You don't need links (in fact, you don't want them when you have huge assemblies in VPM and you need to load for different purposes, it will take for ever this action if you will have links for each fastener...). All informations are in those parameters, even the part numbers of the parts tighten, thickness, everything. I don't know the price but those giants can afford, anyway they have discounts...

Regards
Fernando

https://picasaweb.google.com/102257836106335725208 - Romania
https://picasaweb.google.com/103462806772634246699... - EU

RE: Holes representation

Developed specially for Airbus? Hmm, I'm not a fan of such things. Commercial off the shelf is the only way to go. I'm willing to bet my life Syncrofit is a superior solution.

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!


Resources