Parent view for section view off of drawing
Parent view for section view off of drawing
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My coworker recently made a drawing that has a section view. The parent view for the section view however, he put off to the side of the page, so that it was not visible and that if you printed the drawing or saved a pdf it would not show up (see attachment). The reasoning behind this was to maintain drawing cleanliness. I was wondering if there is any standard that states whether or not this is acceptable. I see alot of info about where to place the views in ASME Y14.3 2003, but nothing about completely omitting the views. Thanks in advance.





RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
Section 1.7.3 "To relate the viewing plane or cutting plane to its removed view ..." implies you do need to show the original view.
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RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
Parent view is completely useless.
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RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
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RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
Is the section view currently the only view on the drawing?
- pylfrm
RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
Look no further than ASME Y14.24.
This is how layout / assembly drawings were done from the beginning of time.
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RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
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RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
I have seen it done frequently, and agree that the parent view is often a waste of space... but per the standard it seems not to be kosher.
Using Y14.3, there is only one view that does not need definition of source; all the other views have to lead back to that view in one way or another. By definition a section view comes from a parent view.
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RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
Leaving an unnecessary parent view off the drawing allows a larger drawing scale and/or a smaller sheet. On an 8.5×11 laser printout, the smaller sheet enlarges the scale too. Clarity is good.
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JHG
RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
Since when machinists are working from assembly drawings?
Also, couple references, not from standard, but from respectable interpretation of it.
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RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
That's like writing your English lit paper based on the cliff notes & the Hollywood movie.
Paper is cheap, screen space even more so, there's no good excuse for sticking to only A size drawings. With a tweak of the font size even E size prints are legible on tabloid.
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RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
Absolutely. Unfortunately this assumption will immediately lead us to very sad conclusion.
The problem is, that sources you blatantly reject are written by people who are (or at some point, were) members of ASME Y14 commitee(s).
To say that their writings have no merit essentially means that even people who wrote the standard, don't know what it means.
This is perfectly fine with me, but please don't bother me with your "universally accepted, universally understood" marketing BS.
Because neither Alex Krulikowski, David P. Madsen, James D. Meadows, Bruce A. Wilson, Gene Cogorno, Robert H. Nickolaisen, none of them know what they are talking about.
"For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert"
Arthur C. Clarke Profiles of the future
RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
RE: Parent view for section view off of drawing
"Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively."
-Dalai Lama XIV