Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
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I have a vertically-submerged 5-stage centrifugal pump that suddenly yielded reduced head (and therefore reduced capacity). The pump had a normal operating differential head of 22.5 bar at a flow of 80 m3/h, but the pump was delivering only around 20 bar diff head and a flow of around 60m3/h.
We confirmed that the operating temperature was within spec. Speed was confirmed (despite being motor-driven). The recorded suction pressure was 0.7 bar (minimum for the pump according to the data sheet is 0.4 bar). We went through the entire system and matched everything (levels, tower operating pressures, etc.) to the run-period when the pump was delivering as per design - but the pump continued to not deliver.
Eventually, we discovered that there was an obstruction in the suction line of the pump. Once that was removed, the suction pressure rose to 0.75 - 0.8 bar, and the pump was delivering as per design.
What, exactly, happened in this system? What were the hydraulic effects at play to cause this phenomenon? No-one in my team can reconcile the findings with the pump's delivery issues.
We confirmed that the operating temperature was within spec. Speed was confirmed (despite being motor-driven). The recorded suction pressure was 0.7 bar (minimum for the pump according to the data sheet is 0.4 bar). We went through the entire system and matched everything (levels, tower operating pressures, etc.) to the run-period when the pump was delivering as per design - but the pump continued to not deliver.
Eventually, we discovered that there was an obstruction in the suction line of the pump. Once that was removed, the suction pressure rose to 0.75 - 0.8 bar, and the pump was delivering as per design.
What, exactly, happened in this system? What were the hydraulic effects at play to cause this phenomenon? No-one in my team can reconcile the findings with the pump's delivery issues.





RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
Multistage pumps are expensive ..... Certainly worth a little extra care .
Suggest that you pay for an inspection of the first stage impeller (or inducer) for damage.
What is the material for the impellers/casing ?
Was there severe vibration during the period of reduced flow ?
It is not a bad idea to develop and pay for a vibration signature when a multistage pump is new, so that as the pump ages, a comparison can be made after a significant incident.
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
We do have a 5-year vibration signature for the pump and we know where it should run. When it was running at reduced performance the vibration was still satisfactory. We didn't see significant cavitation damage though.
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
"Eventually, we discovered that there was an obstruction in the suction line of the pump. Once that was removed, the suction pressure rose to 0.75 - 0.8 bar, and the pump was delivering as per design.
What, exactly, happened in this system? What were the hydraulic effects at play to cause this phenomenon? No-one in my team can reconcile the findings with the pump's delivery issues."
Operation with a blocked inlet means that the pump is operating off the pump performance curve. Operation of pump at either the extreme right or left of the curve may cause damage to the pump. Down thrust can occur when a pump is installed and run in a situation in which it will produce HEAD in the range of shut off pressures (far left side of the performance curve). If this condition continues possible damage to the bearings in the pump and motor can occur.
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RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
Low = cavitation due to blockage in front of the pump.
High = reduced efficiency due to debris within the pump (or potentially but unlikely, after the pump, acting like an orifice.)
Same = little bit of both?
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
Do you have any sort of drawing or sketch relative to the pump suction? Showing pressure tapping point.
Sounds very much to me like the first stage was cavitating.
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RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
Eventually, we discovered that there was an obstruction in the suction line of the pump. Once that was removed, the suction pressure rose to 0.75 - 0.8 bar, and the pump was delivering as per design.
I cannot, off-hand, recall the impeller & casing material, but the vibration steadily increased till we had a catastrophic failure of the pump.
How about editing your posts into one post so we have a chance to comment intelligently.
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RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
The suction pressure reading was at the pump suction flange. The actual suction pressure is higher as the inlet is a further two metres below this (within the sump). I would agree with you to say it is first-stage cavitation, however, if the stated minimum suction pressure was 0.4 bar and we were seeing suction pressure readings of 0.6 bar, either the data sheet is incorrect or the pump was not cavitating. Also, the obstruction that was found was UPSTREAM of the suction pressure gauge.
1gibson,
The amp readings were lower than when running as per design.
Artisi,
There is no conflicting information. More articulately:
Event 1: Poor performance. Vibration steadily increased until catastrophic failure.
Event 2: Pump repaired & re-commissioned. Poor performance prevails. As before.
I do not want to steer the conversation; I want to see what our peers think.
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
What was the vapour pressure of the fluid compared to however this pressure was set? NPSH is measured in metres head, not pressure.
Be aware that cavitation can occur at heads above NPSHR.
How about you give us some pump data and data on the fluid you were pumping. My current thought is that this min suction pressure hasn't taken account of temperature and hence value pressure, but without data we can't work it out.
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RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
I repeat what was said before, too much conflicting or missing information, ie,
Vertical 5 stage centrifugal pump, what type/ configuration
Blockage in the suction line, what suction line????
2 separate events are they connected?
Mode of failure????
Etc. Etc.
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RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
The failure included: shaft fracture, seal failure, bushes destroyed, all wear rings damaged, bearings were in a good condition, impellers were still in a good condition with no obvious cavitation indications such as pitting, etc.
The recorded suction pressure was 0.6 bar (equivalent to an absolute pressure of 1.5 bar) at 106C. The vapour pressure at the selected pumping temperature (105C) is 1.225 bar.
As the pumping medium is very similar to water, a vapour pressure extrapolation does not indicate that the fluid would vaporize at the actual operating temperature of 106C.
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
what was the obstruction - something very solid or did it start to let flow past with hard gritty bits? The damage you note sounds like it's been ingesting stuff it wasn't designed for.
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RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
If the wear rings locked up, there were particles in between them or maybe just high enough vibration over long enough time to cause a rub and eventually galling. Once the rings grab enough to spin the case wear ring (overcome the tack welds or set screws holding them to the case) then it's a very short time before it locks up.
Torsional shaft failure with any ductility, will be at an angle. Top side of shaft still spins, and due to the angle of the break it bounces up/down on the broken surface of the bottom of the shaft. This causes the top shaft to jump up and down, and will smash the seal faces to pieces.
Check your motor bearings as well.
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
The measured suction pressure of 0.6 bar was downstream of the obstruction - the reading was at the inlet flange of the pump. Hence my confusion regarding the obstruction as the rated suction pressure of the pump is 0.4 bar. This should have still been sufficient.
LittleInch,
The obstruction was a solid (leak-sealing compound protruding into the suction line).
1gibson,
That's a good analysis. Unfortunately, a lot of the evidence was lost due to the "run-down" damaged the pump incurred so things such as the shaft fracture angle could not be assessed. But you bring up valuable points I would have liked to have assessed.
My speculation is that the rated suction pressure of 0.4 bar on the data sheet is actually incorrect (due to potential variations over time of the process medium). With the obstruction we saw suction pressures of 0.4 bar and the pump failed to deliver as per design. Once the obstruction was identified and removed, the suction pressure rose to 0.75 - 0.8 bar and now the pump is delivering optimally, as per design.
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
This scenario is easy to identify because the pump will not be operating on the performance curve.
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
Presume the shaft seals are not plan 52 or higher ?
Temp in the seal chamber would be several degC higher than 106degC even during normal operation with adequate suction pressure.
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
It would be fair to say without any further data, the mechanical failure and a drop in hydraulic performance are unrelated, unless of course the shift of the operating point to the left was to near shut head and then maybe, but that's a maybe, some mechanical failure was likely, but without a lot of additional data it is unknown.
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)
RE: Centrifugal Pump: Inadequate Performance. What happened?
Change any of those and your min pressure goes out of the window.
Cavitation often occurs at heads higher than the NPSHR. An increase of a few metres will make all the difference.
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