Would you take a 20% pay cut to learn a specific software?
Would you take a 20% pay cut to learn a specific software?
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Hello.
Would you take a 20% cut in salary (around 7500 USD) to learn a specific software if training was included? I am a graduate and I'm thinking if I should leave my current job to work for someone that is willing to provide training using Ansys. Long term would this could be good but I'm unsure how important this is, as I currently use FEA software but it is an in house program.
Thanks.
Would you take a 20% cut in salary (around 7500 USD) to learn a specific software if training was included? I am a graduate and I'm thinking if I should leave my current job to work for someone that is willing to provide training using Ansys. Long term would this could be good but I'm unsure how important this is, as I currently use FEA software but it is an in house program.
Thanks.





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Sometimes its possible to do all the right things and still get bad results
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And by the way, if you have a degree and 20% of your salary ($37,500?) is $7500, you're already underpaid.
Big no from me.
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- If it is a training course (seminar or 5 to 10 days) and then go back to normal life. Answer is NO.
- If it is the training you get from being involved on practical situations where role requires you to practice the tool extensively (i.e. stay late at the office, have tough deadlines, have a guru sitting next to you that you can learn from, etc.). My answer is where do I need to sign ?
Anywhere just my opinion.
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In response to rotw: I would use it almost every day and for most projects I would work on, along side a team of experts, so not just a one off course.
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Good luck,
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With the numbers correct, and taking all things into account (a potentially more interesting role [although one can never predict the future!] + training), does this sway the decision
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Good luck,
Latexman
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However, in general, I would opt with the NO!'s too.
Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
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Also, HamburgerHelper I don't fully understand what you mean when you say you haven't run across one company that was cheap with you at the start and became very rewarding later on. Are you saying it is unlikely to pay off in that company? If so I would go else where (as jpankask) has stated
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Overall, my gut feeling is if your banking on your career on a software starting out as a engineer and not more on learning the trade or the finished product you're specializing yourself too much. I'm sure with your current employer you can learn something that would bring value to your career and still not take a 20% hit (which could make the different in your lifestyle whether that be a car or saving up for a new home if those kind of things are important to you).
Your job decision should be based on whether your growing in your trade not so much a software (I always based on my job decision on the people I worked with and the projects I worked on). That's my two cent. good luck ST111.
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I've taken a pay cut to move into a more interesting area, it doesn't strike me as absurd. 41000 a year does strike me as absurd
, apparently the USAn restriction of trade rules (sorry, hem hem, PE regulations) aren't doing graduate engineers many favours.Cheers
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Life is a negotiation.
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Sorry for the confusion I used $ as I know a lot of people on the forum are in the US, I didn't know there was such a large difference for graduate salaries! After a quick search this appears to be because of tuition fees being considerably less in the UK (and readily available financial aid), would you agree?
Cycling back around to the original question...on the bases that average UK salary for a graduate is around $39000, does this affect you decision (now the argument of underpaid is no longer viable)
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Yes you are correct, there are other significant issues that come into play such as location etc. I won't over complicate nor bore everyone with my personal matters, but I would agree with you that the decision takes on another element with these factors incorporated.
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As to your question, that's a big drop just to learn some SW. However, if it's a chance to get overall better on the job training & experience as a stress analyst then might be worth it.
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Steve
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Cheers
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I once worked at a software company and gave training courses on the main product. One of the biggest obstacles for me as a trainer was that many participants didn't really understand the basic concepts of power system modelling / simulation and it was not in the scope of the training course to teach that. The course was set up to teach how to drive the software. So I don't think training courses by themselves are really going to help you... most of the important work needs to be done by yourself in your own time or on real projects.
One advantage that you have is that you say the FEA software you use is developed in-house. That's actually a good thing because you can directly ask the developers specific questions about how it works. You'd be amazed how much you can learn sitting next to a developer while inspecting the code. Unless you worked at ANSYS, you probably wouldn't have access to this.
So I concur with the other posters here, don't do it.
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Steve
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