Identifying the capacity of the trailer/puller
Identifying the capacity of the trailer/puller
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I need to shift my Transformer(82 ton).I have to choose a suitable trailer...Can any one suggest the trailer capacity????
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Identifying the capacity of the trailer/puller
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RE: Identifying the capacity of the trailer/puller
Call a heavy rigging specialist, after all someone is going to need to lift it also.
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P.E. Metallurgy, Plymouth Tube
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Examples of Some trailers with sufficient nominal weight capacity shown here -
http://www.biditup.com/db-files/1307027045-175202....
How far will the transformer be traveling?
Is going to be scrapped, or refurbished, or installed at another location?
What are its dimensions (in addition to weighing over 160,000 lbs)?
This merely 130,000 lb tranformer appears to be quite tall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKE6PFdIhzE
Here is a Transformer claimed to be 10’ Wide x 17’ Tall x 15’ Long and weighed approximately 160,000 lbs.
The Transformer was 10’ Wide x 17’ Tall x 15’ Long and weighed approximately 160,000 lbs.
Similar to what EdStainless asked, what are the roads it will have to use to get there? What is the unloading area at the destination like?
Will the transformer's size require that wires may have to be moved, if the oil triggers limits on available routes, daytime travel only, certain bridges used, etc and etc.
Those kind of things need to be well understood to developing a route, and a methoc.
http://www.cmeqco.com/pdf/new/TransCanada_Transfor...
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I have had guys travel 500 miles to make a lift when moving equipment, it is part of their job.
For road use there are the trailers with a drop center section and 6-9 axles under each end on separate carriages.
There are also ones that are a single bed with 30-60 hydraulically driven wheels that are individually steerable. I have seen these used within plants to move very large pieces of equipment.
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P.E. Metallurgy, Plymouth Tube
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Remember this: the last thing you want to say from the witness stand in the potential trials is that you took your loading advice from some guys on an online forum whom you do not know, and who had no risk in giving wrong advice.
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A.
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Regards,
Mike
The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand
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82 Tonnes is an abnormal load, but not beyond the bounds of the everyday abnormal, if you see what I mean. In theory, you ought to be able to move it on a 6 or 7 axle semitrailer even while living within the limits of the relatively restrictive UK (STGO 2000 Cat III) limits for abnormal indivisible loads.
Practice can be different - your aim is to ensure that every axle is within its permitted loading and that you transmit enough (but not too much) weight onto the fifth wheel on the tractor, which depends on:
a. being able to calculate how far forward or aft the cg of your load can sit on the trailer before you blow any of those limits and
b. physically being able to fit the load that far aft or forward on the loadbed.
You need to understand what sort of gradients you will need your rig to negotiate: The steeper the hills it needs to climb, the more traction (function of weight on the driving axles) your tractor will need, and the further forward you will want to position your load. If you can't get the load far enough forward for that, then you'll need to start worrying about using a full trailer instead of a semi, pulled by a ballast tractor. As soon as you do that, your overall train weight skyrockets and bridge crossing becomes a major issue.
On the other hand, if you can't get the cg far enough aft to avoid overloading the tractor (this is a much less common problem), you might have to add a jeep dolly to the system.
You need to understand the height of your load's cg, how quickly it might be driven round bends (this might be quicker than you had intended if you're working in a part of the world where other people think it's helpful to shoot at passing heavy loads), what sort of side-slope you expect to have to negotiate, how fast the side-slope changes and, in particular, if there's anywhere those factors come together. This will guide your choice of trailer width. It's not impossible to roll a combination that seemed quite stable when you set out if your route involves an unexpected shift from one side of a dual carriageway to the other to get round some roadworks. That one also took some explaining, but I was much less closely involved.
You'll need to check that the physical dimensions of the loaded vehicle are acceptable for the journey. Worry most about length at the start end end of the journey and width, height and ground clearance on the highway in between.
The load needs to be attached to the trailer. Properly. Yes, even if you're only going to be going at a slow walking pace. Many people will tell you it stands to reason that something that heavy can't possibly slide off a trailer. These are people who haven't read the laws of physics and, at the subsequent board of Inquiry, will probably be nowhere to be seen. Not that I'm in any way bitter. There's a good guide on the IRU's website.
Depending on where you are and whether you are going to venture out onto the Queen's highway, a move this size is likely to start to attract requirements for prior notification to the authorities, escort vehicles and specific permission from bridge authorities.
In my part of the world (and most people on this forum will be able to say the same) there's a well-established heavy haulage industry that does this sort of job every day, knows all the pitfalls, gets it right almost every time and has good insurance to cover the rare occasion when they mess up. As we've all said before, if you can possibly use one of these specialists, then you should. If that's utterly impossible, then at least go into the job with your eyes open.
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Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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We can debate whether CA is rural or not in terms of the availability of the right transport equipment, and the right knowledge and talent to do this kind of heavy lift/transport job. I can’t imagine I’d have any trouble finding the equipment or talent to do the job out there. Plenty of this type of equipment is hauled into and through rural areas, no insurmountable problems there. But, it does give one some serious pause when you think the OP could be coming form the foreman/VP of the rigging company. It certainly seems that E-Tips is attracting more and more people who have no businesses trying to do what they are pretending to do, because they couldn’t engineer their way out of a paper bag which was open at both ends, even if their life depended upon it.
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Length:7 mtr
Height: 4 mtrs
Width: 3mtrs.
What should be the load carrying capacity of the trailer????
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The OP probably is quoting metric tons, or tonnes. This brings the weight up to 180,000lb, making 200,000lb an even better round-up value.
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JHG
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It just staggers my imagination how you guys will blindly tackle a fairly complicated problem/project, without any experience on the matter, and then keep 75% of the needed design info. secret or maybe you don’t even know or understand what info. is needed. You need to find someone who understands the lifting, rigging and haulage of High, Wide and Heavy Loads, either someone on staff, a consultant who does this kind of engineering, or a contractor who does this kind of work. When you say thermal power plant, do you mean geo-thermal power plant? How did they get the rest of the heavy equipment into that plant? Is there a RR spur into the plant? Where is that plant actually located, will the mud road freeze before you have to make the move? With that expensive an operation and piece of equipment it would seem that a 4km long road could be improved sufficiently to service the power plant. Loads like that can be lifted or slid/skidded on and off the trailer or railcar. While not small, an 82ton; 23' long, by 13' high, by 10' wide transformer is not a particularly large transformer, as these kinds of loads go at large power plants. Several different types of trailers would work to haul your load, in part it depends upon what is available in that area or what can practically brought in to do the job. You would want equipment that would handle the replacement transformer, as well as getting the existing transformer out of the plant. In good part, this is all going to boil down to finding a rigging/heavy haul contractor who will work in that area, and on that size transformer, with the equipment they have available. They will guide you in what needs to be done to move your load, or they will contract the fix the road and everything needed to move the loads from the point of origin to the power plants transformer foundation. You do not have to pick the trailer, they will tell you what they have which will do the job.
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