Here comes another big one (structural tower)
Here comes another big one (structural tower)
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How high can you build them?
Depends on the materials and logistics alone I guess:
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/saudi-tower-184530075...
Depends on the materials and logistics alone I guess:
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/saudi-tower-184530075...
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(assuming 1000m, since the elevation above sea level of Jeddah, Saudi Arabia is negligible)
So ... not really a concern. But I imagine mechanical engineers may soon have to consider oxygen plumbing if people keep trying to top the world record for tallest building! I suppose that's not unlike some hospital wards.
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What is Engineering anyway: FAQ1088-1484: In layman terms, what is "engineering"?
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Back to the original topic: Frank Lloyd Wright proposed a mile high building
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Pretty soon the Saudi's will be building them so tall that when they fall, they will span over the Red Sea. Personally, I think they are trying to compete with Moses.
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I suppose it's a good thing no one paid Frank Lloyd Wright to design and build a mile high tower. Some of his every-day-sized buildings are falling apart after half a century. :)
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Tejon Pass on I-5 going north from Los Angeles is at about 4100 ft. Cajon Pass on I-15 to get to Vegas from Los Angeles is about 3800 ft.
Lake Tahoe is around 6000 ft, but you need to get up to about 7000 ft to get there from highway 50. The top of Heavenly is at about 10000 ft.
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The lowest I've seen someone show signs of altitude sickness from long-term exposure was also in Colorado Springs after a day or so there. This same person handled an hour flight with me at 7,500 feet with no issues.
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But once we got back down to the altitude of Boulder the headache was gone and I was perfectly fine.
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I think there is a point where the vertical effort outweighs any actual benefit (cost/benefit) but on the other hand I celebrate people's freedom to attempt great things.
As far as altitude, Colorado Springs isn't that elevated - I've never had headaches there (been there many times) and I live at about 900 ft. or so.
However, once at 10,000 ft. plus I've had headaches.
The key is to drink lots of water before going to higher elevations and to get up there gradually...over a few days.
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They think that this means the Saudi Royal's Kingdom? Personally, I do not think they have any idea of what "The Kingdom" is. They are clueless.
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This does not conflict with the numbers that TME stated, just the difference between FAA and Air Force requirements.
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comebuy condos to flip.A lot of these impressive buildings in that area are mostly investments, and actual occupancy is not that high.
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Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeddah_Tower
... actually far that I read just now. little info on actual construction.
I 'like' this tidbit: "...much of the intention of Jeddah Tower is to be symbolic as well as to raise the surrounding land value rather than its own profitability."
I wonder if the same money wouldnt be better spent on a solar desalination plant. If you build a huge solar tower power plant (to drive RO), you'd even have an excuise to build a freakin high tower and one-up your neighbors.
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It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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A very apt description!
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I understand that most of his roofs leaked. In a tall tower, most of us would not be directly underneath the roof!
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As for the Saudi tower, it would be far more functional if it went up and down.
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It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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Yes. They. Are. CN Tower in Toronto, 1st observation deck 1135 ft. Entrance into the elevator is made from the gift shop, if memory serves, so it was not readily apparent that the glass door I was pressed up against would be fully exposed and on the edge of the wild blue yonder for the duration of the ride. My nerves still tingle just thinking about it.
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Unlike many others that have come before it and failed to launch.
I know my boss was involved in the schematic stage of the Nakheel Tower (1400m or 4600ft), but it fell through...
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