Space for fillet weld
Space for fillet weld
(OP)
Is there sufficient space to make a fillet weld on site, to weld the vertical leg of a steel angle clip to the underside of the top flange of a W8x18 steel beam? Please see attached sketch.
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RE: Space for fillet weld
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Space for fillet weld
My feeling is that the weld is the more positive way to go, if it can be done properly. But I will also consider the fit tight method you suggest if I can think of a way to be sure it fits tight.
I am still interested in hearing whether the illustrated weld can be done or not.
Thanks for your suggestion, much appreciated as always.
RE: Space for fillet weld
One thing that you've got going for you is that the quality of the weld here isn't super important.
Another option would be to bolt a plate to the concrete and then weld the angle to that to ensure a snug fit.
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Space for fillet weld
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Space for fillet weld
The angle of the electrode should bisect the angle between the members being welded. That isn't possible in this case because of the limited clearance.
It is improbable the welds in this case will be acceptable.
Best regards - Al
RE: Space for fillet weld
RE: Space for fillet weld
RE: Space for fillet weld
Best regards - Al
RE: Space for fillet weld
Best regards - Al
RE: Space for fillet weld
to Kootk - My understanding is that the calculate the force that the brace will take, the entire top flange of the beam and half the web depth must be assumed to be in yield and at a force of Φfy items that area, when designing by limit states design. That means that the resultant force act several inches below the top flange. That seems to mean that a plate or angle on both sides, fitted tight but no welds to the top flange, as suggested earlier, would not be sufficient.
RE: Space for fillet weld
RE: Space for fillet weld
Best regards - Al
RE: Space for fillet weld
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.