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Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number
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Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi,

A customer tried to create the following part



He used pattern feature than get a size of 219 Mo !!!



He said to me that with PRO/E the size is only 6 Mo

So He gave me the challenge and I succeed to reduce the size with pattern face => 13 Mo bigsmile

To enhance the model I tried to use list expression to duplicate the number



The result is wrong mad



Any idea ?

Thanks in advance

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

Hi Didier,
Sorry i am not able to figure out what exactly is causing this. But i guess you are using NX 8.5 .3.3 and i cannot replicate this case in NX 9.0.3 and NX10 (i have only these versions available with me as of now).
Attaching a JPEG herewith.
Best Regards
Kapil

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi,

I have also tested in NX9, NX10 even in NX11 without success evil

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

Hi Didier,
Sorry i may have not understood your issue clearly... but i am attaching the part file herewith (NX9)
I have suppressed the Pattern feature you created and made a new one. Do let me know if it is ok.
Best Regards
Kapil

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi,

It's not good, I would like 10, 11, 12...

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

Didier,
I think i now understand what are you trying to say... you have created this vertical line (using dimension nombre) and used a pattern increment for increasing it by an index of 1 every time it is patterned.
For the text you have taken ref from membre and a list variable Gravure... You want the TEXT content to reflect the list members one by one.
Sorry i have no idea how it can be done...i can think something from Knowledge Fusion but not an OOTB ...
Regards
Kapil

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi Kapil

Thanks for your answer. I will open an Enhancement Request

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

Sorry Didier....i tried every bit from my side... but no solution...the TEXT value although references the length expressions but are not reflected when incremented..
Good to see an enhancement request for this.
Regards
Kapil

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi Kapil,

Thanks a lot, Good Idea

It works but when we edit the pattern and increase the count some PMI disappear.

I will open a Problem Report

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi Ganesh,

Great job, but I am not an Excell expert: Could you explain the formula ?

=SI(REMPLACER(ugexpr("Autre");1;1;"")-COLONNE()>=0;9+COLONNE();"")

Just on problem: the border remain after edit


Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

Hi,

Please see the attached file (Excel Formulas.pdf) contains some explanation about formula.

The NX10 file which I have attached previously working perfectly on my machine however when I try this on some other machine I also got the problem with border. So I am attaching NX 9 file which will solve the issue with border. Hope this helps.

Thanks

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi Ganesh

Thanks a lot

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

Didier, do you have Taylor Andersons mail address?
He's the product manager who's among other things manages Expressions.
.... you can guess the address ( smile )and ask him to read this thread.
If anybody can clarify the original question, it's Taylor.


Regards,
Tomas

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi Tomas

I have a contact at the development and I will try to get it.

Thanks

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

Here's another variant (saved in NX 9)... I'd done a ruler model like this back in NX 7.5 to demonstrate some changes we made in removing some of the Knowledge Fusion class and quantity limitations.

Relative to the model size challenge, this one is 3.8MB at 30m long, and 2.7MB at 15cm long. smile Using Pattern Face on the lines helps keep the file size down, of course.

In this model just change the "length_cm_integer" expression, and everything else comes along for the ride:





...or just change the "labels_text_size" expression to adjust the text height:



The number labels are done with a KF Child List Rule, which can be VERY dynamic because it can leverage the "child:index:" attribute, which is essentially an integer that increments with each instance of the array/list. Works quite well here.



Hope that helps. smile

I'll keep poking at a purely expression-based solution.

Taylor Anderson
NX Product Manager, Knowledge Reuse and NX Design
Product Engineering Software
Siemens Product Lifecycle Management Software Inc.
(Phoenix, Arizona)

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

That is why i love KF ... :) . Thanks Taylor
Best Regards
Kapil Sharma

RE: Pattern Face versus Pattern Feature and list expression to duplicate number

(OP)
Hi Taylor,

Thanks a lot, it's wonderfull

Two questions:

- I don't know KF: do we need a special license ? I have a MACH3 Indus Design

- Is it possible to developp same function with engraved text ?

Thanks in advance

Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com

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