×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!
  • Students Click Here

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

Jobs

brick bonds: which is the best
4

brick bonds: which is the best

brick bonds: which is the best

(OP)
Hi

there are so many different brick bonds (courses)
for me it seams that the "englisch bond" one stretcher one header must be still the strongest
but if, so why are people not using only this type of bond?

why would someone still go for a "running bond" ? (except you have a cavity wall)

or even a stack bod? (in my eyes the weakest of them all)

why not alwys the "englisch bond" ?

Regards



RE: brick bonds: which is the best

Probably just that in most western countries, brick is no longer a favoured material for structural walls. It is still use a lot as a veneer, but not structurally.

RE: brick bonds: which is the best

(OP)
but still even in the past when brick walls were structural elements the bonds were still so different

RE: brick bonds: which is the best

The bond appearance on the wall face is dictated by the customer or architect for a veneer. The architect must be aware of the size of the brick selected when the face pattern is considered for bonded (brick and block)walls even down to control joint spacings.

Dick

Engineer and international traveler interested in construction techniques, problems and proper design.

RE: brick bonds: which is the best

As hokie66 stated, in my area, brick is generally used as non-structural veneer only.

A general point to consider is that, wouldn't a running or stack bond both, be more economical, labor wise, than virtually any other bond of masonry?

RE: brick bonds: which is the best

lolobau - You are correct about the (structurally) best bond, the answer comes from the past (1914) when brick was a competitive structural material:

Quote (Building Age Magazine - September & October 1914)

...all structurally sound brickwork is based on either one of two methods of bonding, both of which systematically include headers with the stretchers throughout the courses. The first is known as English Bond... The second is the Flemish Bond... All ornamental bonds are simply variations of these two fundamental forms.

The complete seven page article from the magazine is attached below:

www.SlideRuleEra.net idea
www.VacuumTubeEra.net r2d2

RE: brick bonds: which is the best

2
Engineer... This would be the strongest course pattern. I suggest this.

Architect... but, that is not pretty. Will this other pattern I like work?

Engineer... yes, it will work, but.. followed by a bunch of yadda yadda yadda the architect is not listening too anyway.

Architect... We will use the pretty pattern.

Not once in my career have I been the one to select the brick on a project except for small projects where there was no architect. Now if you can figure out why some architects focus on the details they do, I will send you an award for solving the mystery.

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!


Resources