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# Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

## Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

(OP)
I just passed and got my stamp and am making what a fresh out of school engineer would be making. I'm making 65k working 45 hour weeks when in reality I should be making 100-110k per salary.com

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

I've always suspected that Salary.com, if not deliberately inflated, is at least not well suited for detecting the nuances between different subsets of industry (in my case, structural engineering related to construction versus structural engineering related to architectural design), and certainly not levels of responsibility (having a PE stamp versus being the primary EOR in an office).

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

(OP)
I think you are right and agree with you. I'm going to aim to get around 85-90k during my review (hopefully today, if not tomorrow). If not I think I'll search around for other companies. I think that amount is respectable given the other couple engineers I know in my area and do the same job as me....Thanks for your input Loma!

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

Sorry, but nobody gets 30-35% raises during a normal review cycle, it makes no business sense whatsoever for the employer. 15% would be impressive, and that's if both parties openly discuss that you were underpaid. Start looking around, talk to recruiters to get a better feel for the local salary range.

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

(OP)
I spoke with a recruiter and they recently placed a PE with 6 years experience at a little over 70K but total compensation was 110K. He then went on to say that the median range for base pay seems to be in the low 80's. Maybe I should shoot for 80-85k, still ambitious. I've been meeting with 2 other companies so we'll see how that pans out.

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

Throwing healthcare into the total compensation for an individual is pretty meaningless in a comparison. One could get a \$100k bump in a certain year by eating burgers from Five Guys at every meal!

Base pay for a local ChE level V at Salary.com came in pretty close to my base salary, so not bad!

Good luck,
Latexman

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### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

You did not mention your years of experience, if you have around 5 years and your PE most of what I have seen is in the 80K range. Sadly I recall talking with a recruiter in 2003, he was getting 80K for mechanicals with a PE and five years experience in MEP systems way back then.

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

(OP)
I have around 6 years of experience, I've also worked at civil engineering companies during college. I graduated civil but took And passed the HVAC and refrigeration test. It wasn't that easy teaching myself some of the test material but it was well worth it

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

I think salary.com has been high for southern California entry level since the recession hit.

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

Salary.com does not match the only good, useful survey data available for engineers in Ontario, Canada. Depending on category, and particularly for the entry level, it tends to be inflated by as much as 20-30% relative to a survey made by OSPE which has thousands of respondents and which surveys employeers AND employers in alternating years to keep bias or manipulation under control. I have no idea what they are using as the basis for their numbers, but you'd think that this salary survey would be the first place they'd look.

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

Im with 1gibson - if you are lookiing for +10% pay increase the _only_ way to do this is to find a new job.

If you go down this route dont volunteer your salery now (or lie).

Best regards, Morten

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

#### Quote (MortenA)

Im with 1gibson - if you are lookiing for +10% pay increase the _only_ way to do this is to find a new job.

Sorry, but my personal experience shows that to be a false statement.

OP, yes Salary.com tends to run a little high from what I see.

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### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

I've gotten merit raises that were higher than 10%. One company gave me two or three raises of that magnitude. One was 15% and the other was a fraction shy of 20%. The latter was my first raise and was more of a "Ok wow, you're better than advertised and worth more to us, so we adjusted your pay." - It's rare to find an such altruism in company ownership and if I hadn't needed to move across the country, I'd still be loyal to that company today. Rare, but such companies do exist.

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### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

10%, even 15% is feasible. 30% or more just isn't, I'm trying to manage the OP's expectations. I had to argue/negotiate (I still don't know what exactly to call it) for two ~10% raises over a few years, where 1-3% was the norm. I then left that position when looking for what I came up with as fair market value, about a 20% increase. They offered to match and then some on the last day of my 2 week notice, but it was too late and there are plenty of threads to read about counter offers.

What I am saying is that it doesn't make any business sense to hand out a 30% increase with or without serious discussion. If you're that indispensable, and losing you is totally unacceptable, it's still bad business for the employer to even be in that position. What if you get hit by a bus? That 30% raise won't eliminate any more risks than a 15%, or maybe 10% raise. If you get 10-15%, you'll stick around a bit longer.

Unfortunately, everything depends on your current salary, that's why we're talking in percentages. You're at a disadvantage even trying to change jobs if your salary is way below market value. Best bet is to get what you can where you're at, until a 20% increase at a new job will get you where you want to be.

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

It's pretty close for Geotechnical in my area.

### RE: Do you find salary.com to be representative of your salary given your location and grade level?

Just an FYI, glassdoor.com has salaries that match up with my company spot on. Can't speak for the rest of the data.

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