Anybody appalled by the science errors in the movie INTERSTELLAR
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It's a good movie as things go these days. Actually if you didn't notice the science problems
you might love the movie. So I expect the lay people to like it as they should.
Here is what bothers me.
The science problems could have been mostly fixed VERY easily and still make just as interesting
script for the screen. Supposedly they had scientific consultants.
But how can you excuse or fail to rewrite a sub plot line where the crew descends to a planet surface
and returns in 3 days to find 21 years has passed on their orbiting mother ship.
And there are dozens of dozens of good points raise on the internet about the weak science.
The weak science was obvious and surely could have been fixed with minor script changes.
Well I will play my card. Is there a conspiracy to dumb down the public WRT science??
Consider that a movie like 2001 a space odyssey would never get made in todays world.
And that makes me really really sad...





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The public seem to be getting there without any need for a conspiracy.
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"For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert"
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It's a bitter, bitter person who takes a look at a movie that is miles better than its predecessors in intellectual content and complains about a couple remaining errors. I applaud the film and its achievements. It's cannot be easy to make a popular movie that profits in today's market while still making it scientifically engaging and groundbreaking. The vast, vast majority of scientific outlets I've seen speak about the movie were all quite flattering. The ones who pointed out errors or criticisms did so in good nature and without detracting from their overall praise.
Your tin foil hat needs calibration.
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As for 2001, that was a Kubrick film, so comparison to ordinary directors is really not possible.
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Now I'm not so sure.
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If this sort of thing prevents you from enjoying a movie, then don't go see them.
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To paraphrase what is likely a completely butchered quote by Mark Twain:
'The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.'
(which, maybe he never actually said that, which would be all the more fitting)
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Sure if the ship was orbiting the planet, but it wasn't. The ship and the planet were both orbiting the black hole. The planet was closer to the black hole, and it was that proximity to the supermassive object that caused the difference. I doubt Nolan did the Lorentz Transform to prove it, and I honestly question whether many in here could do it. And if you did, you'd discover one of the greatest discontinuities in special relativity - that the relative time approaches an asymptote at the event horizon when you're falling in, so you never quite get there. Or rather, the clocks out in orbit reach infinity before your clock ticks again. He couldn't have fallen into the black hole at all, if Einstein was correct.
If you're looking for silliness in the movie, you don't have to dig very deep. The very idea that some famous scientist stranded on an alien planet doesn't know how airlocks work should be enough to plant your tongue firmly in your cheek. Or solid methane crystals that aren't subject to gravity for some reason. Not to mention how the entire plot hinged around the (quite famous) Bootstrap Paradox. In the end, as with all movies, you have to suspend disbelief. I did so, and I rather liked it. If nothing else, for their depictions of the accretion disk.
For what it's worth, Christopher Nolan screws up time in just about every movie he does. In the last Batman movie, basically no time elapses in the outside world while Batman rehabs a broken spine for a month or two. Memento was told completely backwards in time. Inception played very loose with time.
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However, that goes for almost any genre of film except ones about their own industry or modelling etc.
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Its not an error at all. The entire movie is a criticism of much of modern science and alarmist movements.
"“We’re sort of in this moment in which humans are obsessed that we’ll prove our own undoing—that we’ll poison the planet, we’ll destroy ourselves, and all these things,” Jonathan says early on in an interview that accompanies the screenplay. “But I thought it would be more interesting to find a slightly less personal Armageddon, or the idea that the universe obliterates you or the planet turns itself toxic because it doesn’t care about you and me because we’re an accident in outer space.” (Emphasis mine.) Later on, he drives this point home: “That’s the fascinating question of why is it that humans are so obsessed with not just the idea of their own Armageddon, but their own culpability.”
As Christopher notes later on in the interview, man’s obsession with his own self-destruction is, at least in part, a function of ego. “Every generation believes they’re the last generation on Earth. Maybe one generation will eventually be right. I certainly hope it’s not ours,” he says. Interstellar rejects that idea. “It’s about the way in which human beings adapt and transcend natural movements—apocalyptic type movements.”
Dr. Mann is a famous scientist but that does not mean he is a good scientists. Manny famous scientists are only famous because they are media personalities. Dr. Mann is a typical post normal scientists. He is willing to lie, cheat, and in this case kill to keep from living his life in obscurity.
"Dr. Mann: No. I tried to do my duty, Cooper. But I knew, the day that I arrived here, this place had nothing and I resisted the temptation for years. But I knew that if I just pressed that button, then somebody would come and save me."
Dr. Mann dies doing something so stupid to show that just because a scientist is famous in this media age doesn't mean he is a particularity good or relatively smart scientist.
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Live long and prosper
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The orbital mechanics presentation of Gravity was ridiculous. Not to mention that their view of LEO space was more densely packed than a Los Angeles freeway during rush hour.
I am still irritated by The Core. They pre-marketed to the engineering community through the industry magazines and through technical magazine editors. As far as I'm concerned they stole my a money at the theater.
There are some science-fiction movies that technically hold up well, like 2001 and Contact.
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Saw Ex Machine, which I had never even heard of, on the same trans Atlantic flight, and loved it.
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My GF is a research scientist, she has ended up screaming at the TV set over something they've depicted in the lab or how fast they get results on say a DNA test
My ex is a nurse and she used to get equally upset over a lot of "medical" shows and what they would depict. "House" was one of her particular hot buttons and what he could do and routinely get away with.
They just want to make a movie that makes them a lot of money. If they have to take liberties with the truth or flat out kill the truth, it's just collateral damage and totally okay as long as the movie is a success.
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It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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I am appalled by the history errors in 300: Rise of an Empire. Where do you want to go with this.
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Still watch them all the time.
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One of my biggest pet peeves...anyone remember Megatron getting frozen at a planet pole? Meanwhile Autobots and Decepticons can travel through the frigidness of space without issue?...le sigh. But I still love Transformers movies, I just need to live in suspended reality for a time.
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Suspension of disbelief is no different than being in proposal mode; "Sure, we can make that half-dead horse talk up a storm; just come back in 2 years..."
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