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Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB
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Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Probably so. Looks they rolled over under their own weight.

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Check out the girder farthest right in this photo. Is the beginning of The buckled portion at a splice location? The kink in the top flange at the start of the buckle in the foreground looks very abrupt as well. Maybe that's just what a flange yielded laterally looks like.

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RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

The double curvature buckling behaviour here is indicative of column buckling, caused by restraint against thermal movement. I remember a previous thread about a similar failure, but can't locate it.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Looks like a lateral-torsional buckle under gravity with inadequate bracing. Should lateral horizontal bracing been placed at the top flange as in a curved bridge? Placing the first couple of girders must have been wobbly. I guess it could have been triggered by some thermal restraint, particularly if the girder is wanting to shorten, but the stability must have been borderline.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Thermal restraint doesn't sound right during a girder erection operation -- I don't think the temperature swing would be that significant.

KootK, I think the abruptness is likely due to the end segments having their permanent diaphragms installed, while it looks like the center segments they were picking just have some temporary erection bracing installed. It's tough to tell, but I think the temporary bracing may have only been lean-on style -- so not providing much actual additional stability against LTB/LFB.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

It's pretty clear the two outer sections were there first, held up by scaffolding and the cranes hence the missing segment in kootks picture. They were then lowering in the middle bit and then securing it somehow and then bracing against the other sections. the only connection to the ground was at the end of the two initial sections right at the end if you watch the video slowly

note the two cranes holding up the two cantilevered sections. if they went a bit too far up or even not completely vertical then you've got a rather wobbly beam and once it gets even a little out of straight, self weight will force it more and more over.

those bracings are puny.

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RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

We do get some crazy 24hr temperature swings in Alberta. I'd considered thermal induced compression buckling too.

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RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

In the Accidents and Disasters thread on this, I suspected restrained thermal expansion after the bent beams were installed and locked on place - and the other good beams were the proper length and were properly mounted to allow sudden thermal expansion on the first "clear day, bright sunshine" in March.

But look also at the lowest picture, furthest right beam going away from the camera. That beam does NOT look like it is "aimed" at its matching beam on the far side of the bridge by at least 6-8 inches. The beams may have been "encouraged" to connect a "bit vigorously" by bending them sideways so they'd connect.

Vertical weight does not seem to be involved. There's no rotation of the webs.

If thermal expansion - how much temperature change on a completely restrained beam - end-to-end of the whole bridge - is needed to force that large a deflection sideways?

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Possible distirtion with the temperature change, but the middle section alone would have had to lengthen by 6" or so to get this kind of lateral distortion in the picture. For the length of the central girder I see, that seems extreme. I think there is something else going on here.

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Perhaps the thermal stress was the final card that brought the house down.

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RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

(OP)
Today's paper indicates they are 40 tonne girders. That seems a bit hefty to me but I'm not experienced in bridge construction. One comment made by Mike Bartlett, a structural engineer and professor at the University of Western Ontario: "My guess is that most of the problem occurred due to the weight of the girders themselves, which is not trivial." He also stated "It sounds crazy to say it when you look at these pictures but the buckling could be what's called elastic lateral-torsional buckling. If you take the load off the girder, the girder may be able to return to more or less its original shape."

Interesting thoughts. Others are wondering if the wind had anything to do with it. Apparently there were fairly strong winds prior to the buckling.

BA

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Mike:
You have to be very careful interpreting/reading those photos. Telephoto lenses do some really funny things in foreshortening/lengthening lengths in the line of view, which causes lateral distances or vertical distances (perpendicular to the line of view) to appear far more distorted than they actually are. Take a look at videos of highways, railroad tracks, pipelines, etc., it takes the truck hours to get here (long dist. of view and travel) and it’s climbing mountains not just interstate highway grades in getting here. Those photos are deceptive, if you aren’t careful in studying them.

The end thirds of those girders do have some real construction bracing, offering some lateral stability btwn. them as a framing system, and likely some shoring out near their splice ends, at least during erection. I’ll bet the center third of each girder was as flexible as a wet noddle, and they don’t have any decent erection bracing btwn. those portions to stiffen them laterally. I’ll bet they set the end portions which were stiffer, braced them, and felt pretty confident about how stable everything seemed. Then, they assumed they could just hang the center portions off the two end portions, on any single girder line, just like any other hanging beam. They picked those center portions off a truck, from the top flanges, and this would not have given them much hint of how flexible they were. The splices may not even have been made up completely yet, on all the assembled girders. The center portions did hang there until they started removing the shoring under the end of the girder end thirds, and this added significant compression to the top flgs. of the center portions of the whole girder, and all hell broke loose. BA’s original video does show a side view of the bridge prior to the accident, without much/any shoring under the fully assembled girder lines. The point is, the center portions will hang there just fine, but start removing the shoring and you triple or quadruple the bending stresses in the flgs. at mid span.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Daily max/min temperatures can been in link below. There were some warm days leading up to the girders buckling (buckled morning of the 16th). They said the day before they couldn't work because of wind...so if the outer girders were installed on the 14th there was a max/min temp of +16.8/+2.1 C. When the girders buckled the temperature was closer to -3 C. It looks the temperature was trending downward in the 24 hrs leading up. Seems that would tend to put the center span in tension.

It does look like only the center portion has buckled. And looking at the very beginning of the video in the article that BA linked to, you can see there are 6 girders in place. Only the 3 shown in the pictures above have buckled. Maybe faulty bracing between the 3rd and 4th girder?

http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata...

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

BA:
40 tonnes is only 500-600lbs./ft., the girders are about 135' long aren’t they, maybe not so outlandish, 1.2 cu.ft./(ft. of length). I didn’t exactly have the term ‘elastic buckling’ on the tip of my tongue, but I’ll buy that. I don’t see any sharp kinks anyplace or local bucking in the top flanges, so I was certainly thinking, not much real yielding, localized yielding, had taken place. The top flanges have nice clean curvatures in their rolled over distortions. The top flgs. of the middle portions also seem narrower than the flgs. on the end third portions, thus less stiff laterally. The webs and stiffeners look pretty good and straight, and the bottom flg. rolled right with the webs. The bottom flg. saw almost no yielding or high stresses, so they’re good, but I’ll bet they bent the hell out of parts of the splice pls., and maybe a little bit of the girders right at the splices. If the City, County, Province will give them a bit of a break, I’ll bet those center portions can be heat straightened with no loss in ultimate strength of the girders or final bridge. The top flgs. will req’r. the most work, localized yielding and residual stresses from the heating, but they’ll finally be encased in the deck haunches/conc. Furthermore, as you load the girders, in the final bridge, you essentially just stress that local region back up to its previous max. on a slightly shifted stress/strain curve (elastic portion of the curve) before it continues up the original stress/strain curve, but the conc. is there to help with that too.

These plate girders/bridges are at their most dangerous during erection. Nobody wants to spend too much money on temp. bracing, it’s only going to be there for a short time. There won’t be any strong winds during that short time period. Do we really need all that bracing, flip a coin. And, the worst of the worst is the first two girders, until you get some real solid bracing btwn. them, then the rest can be braced back to the first two while a crane hold them in place for a short time.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Continuing CANPRO's thoughts, the centre segment wouldn't just be in axial tension. The bearings, where the restraint would likely occur, are well below the neutral axis leading to positive bending and additional compression in the top flange.

Would the bearings have been fixed against sliding during erection?

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

In Missouri they'd call it good and just stripe the lanes to match. Just kidding - but there was a Saint Louis contract for demolition of a multiple arch bridge over RR tracks that they 'staged' only forgetting the resisting forces still needed to be applied. (http://bridgehunter.com/mo/st-louis-city/kingshigh...)

In this case it looks like there was a conversion from bending to torsion as some minor deviation in the straightness or loading got amplified by the self-weight of the girders. Looks exactly like the failure one gets from a simply supported vertical strip of cardboard with a bending load.

Is it uncommon to place the cross bracing before the crane releases the weight to the supporting structure?

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

500 - 600 plf for a plate girder is pretty common. The exterior girders are not buckled and they have cross-frames or temp bracing installed between them along their entire length. The girders that buckled don't have the same bracing between them in the center sections that buckled. My armchair analysis says the bracing wasn't adequate.

The permanent cross-frames I design for straight plate girders are usually K braces made of at least a L4x4x3/8. If the girder spacing to height ratio becomes to low I will switch to X braces. I also specify hardwood 4x4 struts at 4' maximum spacing for the bottom flanges and 1/2" tension ties at 4' maximum spacing for the top flanges. This helps to keep everything braced when the deck is being placed. After seeing this I don't think any of it is overkill.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Dave --

It's most common to have a reduced number of braces required before the crane releases the girder (enough to provide stability with a minimum lateral load during the work period), and then more braces that need to be installed before the end of the shift or before winds exceeding X mph occur.

Of course, that requires the contractor plan in advance to know how long a weather window they need to get a girder and bracing up, compare that to their weather forecast, and make the right go/no-go call.

It's very possible that pair of braces at the center were the release bracing, that they were planning to install additional bracing prior to the end of the shift, and couldn't because the wind speeds exceeded their crane's specs. Either poor planning or just unlucky.

Although that doesn't explain why the buckling didn't occur until monday morning.



RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

try "It was noted on Monday morning that the girders were buckled". It would've been a fairly quiet event, and wouldn't have raised a dust cloud. And most 'civilians' wouldn't have noticed the discrepancy.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

If there is only horizontal bracing that is not connected to any sturdy support at the ends of the horizontal bracing lines, and no "X" bracing (top to bottom of at least 2 adjacent girders) between the girders anywhere along the length of the horizontal bracing line, is it really braced at all? If all the girders buckle in the same direction, then the horizontal members are not really bracing the girder.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Lack of adequate bracing. The current plate-girder designs are flimsy & delicate, just like bar joists. Makes them VERY hard to ship from the fab shop to site. They are nice and stiff AFTER the concrete road deck is poured. Not all that stable with all the 'diaphragm' braces are bolted in, but w/o the road deck. LRFD at its 'best'; tall, thin, and wobbly until the last element - concrete deck - is installed. Not a hundredweight of extra steel.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Could the thermal movement really have that much of an impact in this case? It doesn't look restraint.

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RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Looks like LTB to me.

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RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Quote (Duwe6)

try "It was noted on Monday morning that the girders were buckled". It would've been a fairly quiet event, and wouldn't have raised a dust cloud. And most 'civilians' wouldn't have noticed the discrepancy.

That's not what happened. From the articles posted:

"Crews were working on the girders Monday morning when some of them buckled without warning, he said.
"All of a sudden four of them bent simultaneously."

and "It was around 2:15 a.m. Monday and crews were installing the sixth of seven girders at the 102nd Avenue Bridge when the steel beams spanning across Groat Road began to bend before their eyes. "

The first article has a pretty neat before/after shot. Click on the photos tab at the top.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Interesting photos. It really was 2.15 AM, I thought that was a misprint.

Is it me or in the photo before it bends when its all straight is the crane holding up the nearest spar not vertical? It wouldn't take much to induce a bit of twist in the girder and then when it relaxes a bit feeds into a bend which may not have been seen and then bang. If they were installing them one after the other and constantly moving position it wouldn't take much to get the lift non vertical and induce an ever so slight sideways force.

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RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

(OP)
A 1200 Tonne crane has been installed and is starting to take some of the weight of the buckled girders. The steel is expected to bounce back to nearly straight but an evaluation will be made to see whether the girders need to be replaced or re-used. Should know more by tonight.

I'm betting the girders will not have to be replaced.

BA

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

"It was around 2:15 a.m. Monday and crews were installing the sixth of seven girders at the 102nd Avenue Bridge when the steel beams spanning across Groat Road began to bend before their eyes. "

Those beams would have done their bending behind the crew's backs as well. I guess a watched beam still bends.

The real question - did the engineering firm do a stability analysis for each piece as it was placed to see that the constraints were sufficient or did the construction firm blow off required reinforcement as too time consuming? Or both?

In a former life it was often a question for me about the analysis of imperfect parts for stress concentrations, deviations to load paths, assembly loads, and the like. Stress analysis seemed to always be centered on nominal parts with no consideration for variations and a lot of reliance on safety factors.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

In reference to a few of the comments above, just to give my insight:

Thermal loads causing the buckling are unlikely IMO. Standard practice in Alberta is that the contractor is not allowed to pour the grout pad beneath the bearings prior to all of the steel being erected and free spanning. In that case the bearings would be resting on steel pintles and the only restraint would be through friction. As noted in the news articles, the girders were fine at 2:10am and buckled by 2:15am. First guess is one girder went as the tension was being let out of the crane lines and the others followed.

The "lean on bracing" installed does not look to be erection bracing. It is likely the top and bottom chord of the permanent diaphragms. As others have noted, it is common to only install the bare minimum amount of bracing required to provide adequate bracing to the girders for supporting their own self weight during erection. Once the girders are up the rest of the permanent diaphragms are installed.

It's close to a 99% probability that there was engineering done for the erection of the girders. This was not a small contractor and regulations in Alberta are strict. If Alberta Transport is responsible for the bridge, they would not allow erection of any of the steel without sealed erection plans that include everything up to how the load is to be relieved on the shoring towers after all of the steel is erected. If it is City of Edmonton responsibility, the requirements may be a bit less.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

An edit to the above:

In regards to the bearings, it is possible this bridge was designed with integral abutments, in which case the girders would have likely been bearing on elastomeric bearing pads with no longitudinal restraint.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

I was talking with someone yesterday with some insider knowledge and it appears as though temporary shoring was provided near the splice locations to aid in construction. This shoring was apparently constructed on frozen soil and the warm weather that day (something like 10oC) caused the shoring to settle putting the top chord of those girders in significantly more compression than designed.

This is all of course just an assumption at this point however it seems reasonable.

RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Maple syruping season in the Great White North means warm days and sub-zero nights.
I can only see this being caused by buckling caused by temperature effects, but what we can't guess is what was done to leave the structure vulnerable.

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RE: Bridge Girder Buckling during Construction in Edmonton, AB

Unfortunately vague follow up:http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/investigation-finds-cau...

On Monday, officials said a mistake made by the subcontractor hired to install the girders led to the twisted metal.

“The investigation indicated the buckling was a result of the subcontractor responsible for installing the girders misinterpreting the precise bracing details and requirements required,” Barry Belcourt with the City of Edmonton said.

At the time, there were concerns that high winds played a role in the incident – Belcourt confirmed the wind was not a factor.

Belcourt said the subcontractor, Supreme Steel, fabricated the girders and designed the plan on how to install them – but the plan wasn’t followed.

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