TEV Charging system
TEV Charging system
(OP)
A while back, in this forum, I was asked to look into the Carl Tilley Inc. site
www.tilleyfoundation.com
and give an opinion. Well , boys and girls, this is a bit over my head. Race cars with IC engines and other 'big boy toys' I can handle. This technology I must leave up to you younger folk. The site is well done and, at least at first glance, this system appears legit. The disclaimers and warnings are long and thorough. It appears to be a "one man operation" with no solicited support. Proper documentation has been attempted as has the use of a 'big name' test driver. I am old enough to know some of these 'old' pro driver types and while I would not dream of making any assumptions about their's or anyone elses qualifications to test this type of vehicle (aside the obvious-they know how to drive!) I lack sufficient infomation to form an opinion at this time. I don't mean this to sound presumptious (my opinion lends little value to this subject) but, it is YOUR qualified opiniions that would validate (or put the lie to) this project. It does sound 'to good to be true', does it not?
Rod
www.tilleyfoundation.com
and give an opinion. Well , boys and girls, this is a bit over my head. Race cars with IC engines and other 'big boy toys' I can handle. This technology I must leave up to you younger folk. The site is well done and, at least at first glance, this system appears legit. The disclaimers and warnings are long and thorough. It appears to be a "one man operation" with no solicited support. Proper documentation has been attempted as has the use of a 'big name' test driver. I am old enough to know some of these 'old' pro driver types and while I would not dream of making any assumptions about their's or anyone elses qualifications to test this type of vehicle (aside the obvious-they know how to drive!) I lack sufficient infomation to form an opinion at this time. I don't mean this to sound presumptious (my opinion lends little value to this subject) but, it is YOUR qualified opiniions that would validate (or put the lie to) this project. It does sound 'to good to be true', does it not?
Rod





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I too have looked at the website and tend to agree, it seems too good to be true.
I have also had experience with "big name" drivers to lend some credibility to an experimental vehicle testing program. When it came time to pay him for his services, there was some discussion about how his report should read. His curt answer was something on the line of "How good do you want it to be?"..while handing his hand out for a "performance bonus"!
This is a driver would be more than familiar to anyone who knows "roundy-round" racing. I regularly receive unsolicited marketing material about some product with more emphasis being placed on the spokesman's credentials than the legitimacy of the product. Repeated requests for independant testing lab results simply result in more "how can you doubt this persons testimony?"
I tend to shy away from any marketing material that mentions any well known person for crediblity or testimony, call it caveat emptor!
Snake Oil?
Franz
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The thing that baffled me is why people set these scams up... and then you read about the Feds handing out millions to that catalyst company that someone was promoting here, and it all becomes clear.
Cheers
Greg Locock
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-Jon
RE: TEV Charging system
his claim that the car ran out of juice at 9.8 miles using a 12 batt pack, and the "independant engineers" comment of “I built an electric car. I know this vehicle could not go more than 10 miles without recharging it’s batteries so the TEV charging system must work” are a little to much alike for my liking. Also my experiance with EV's is that one set up as this is should have a range of 35 to 50 miles (in city driving) depending on the exact vehicle and if you are always hammering it at the lights through town. Also 144.8v s not full charge for a 12 batt lead acid system.
The biggest thing that bugs me is that if his device really could produce the power needed then why the high capacity batteries? yes you need batts (or even better supercaps) to provide extra power momentarily for full load, but smaller, lighter, and cheaper batteries would work just fine.
RE: TEV Charging system
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/newstuff/archive/2002Sept.htm
Tilley gave a public test of the car on Sept 8th 2002. The car failed with mechanical difficulties, I believe an axle sheered or a CV joint gave out. Tilley gave the excuse that the loading imposed by the banking at the track was the cause of the failure, which is 100% BS as the Delorean wasn't travelling that fast at all when it happened!
Scroll down, on that page, to Sept 8th / 9th, to get the full details. The site also contains a bunch of other info. Tilley does have outside investment... one of the reasons he was having a public demonstration.
Kai