LPG sphere thickness
LPG sphere thickness
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Hello friends, I am doing a rougth budget for 6 LPG spheres, does any one have the thikness of a 19.5 meters sphere?
Thank you
Thank you
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RE: LPG sphere thickness
RE: LPG sphere thickness
RE: LPG sphere thickness
"The largest Sphere holds 50,000 BBLS of Propane at 250 psig in an 81'-10 sphere. The Sphere has an unusually high design pressure that requires that all welds be 100% Ultrasonic Tested(UT) for quality. Also due to the high pressure, the plates were designed to be very thick (the thickest plate was 1.918") and required that the Sphere be field Post Weld Heat Treated (PWHT) by holding the entire sphere at 1,195 degrees F for 2 hours. Before being placed into service, the Propane Sphere was then successfully hydro tested under pressure to 358 psig."
IE, that particular tank was 25m diameter with 1.918" plate at 250 psi. This was using higher strength material, so it wouldn't be strictly proportional to pressure or diameter if you scale it up or down. But should give you some idea.
RE: LPG sphere thickness
RE: LPG sphere thickness
Most existing spheres load the ground in a circle of pillars, unlike the uniform loading of a flat bottomed tank. I am aware that not all sites can be used for FB tanks, as the developed unit ground force may require an unecononomic foundation design.
I hope that you considered other shapes and multiple tanks in this evaluation.
An interesting discussion of LPG sphere sizing is here:
http://www.cheresources.com/invision/topic/10530-l...
Respect the members of this forum......let us know about your final decision
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
RE: LPG sphere thickness
If I work at this project I will send pictures...
RE: LPG sphere thickness
Unless you are only calculating shipping weight, your estimation will be too low and WAY off base. Fabricating 1 to 2-inch thick steel into a spherically curved section is not a trivial exercise. Erecting those curved sections, and welding them expeditiously and soundly is not trivial either. Then comes the In-Situ PWHT, with no localized hot or cold spots. Also tough. Call CB&I - Chicago Bridge & Iron and get an 'order of magnitude' estimate. They will want diameter/volume, MAWP & MDMT, and the fluid to be contained. They MIGHT be able to give you an idea about the cost of the piles that the legs will rest on. They will be able to spec the max. allowed settlement per leg, and the design loading.
These are the only folks I would trust to build me a sphere. Currently have two from the 1960's - excellent condition, excellent quality.
RE: LPG sphere thickness
Please explain the reason why more expensive spheres are required for this project, rather than the mass-produced and cheaper LPG cylinders.
I certainly hope that your answer is "that's what the client wants"....
Was a cost comparison made ?
So often I have heard "The client wants what the client wants"......... up until the last moment when he gets changes his mind.
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
RE: LPG sphere thickness
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
RE: LPG sphere thickness
RE: LPG sphere thickness
CBI know a This market they have buit thanks before, and I dont know if my client wants to ask them and yes I will study further The cost comaparisson thanks
RE: LPG sphere thickness
RE: LPG sphere thickness
Please complete this thread and respect us...
Share with us the results of your final tank evaluation and tell us the reason for your choice.
Best Regards
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
RE: LPG sphere thickness