Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
(OP)
Hi all,
I have a steel bridge with 50 m span composed witn 4 beam (2400 m height) bracing together.
The problem is because the weight of the beam is not posible to lift two beam together (with bracing), so we have to lift and install the beams one by one.
If we lift and instal one beam this will failt for Lateral Torsional Buckling.
So we need some bracing only for the installation.
There is any "typical" bracing for this situation? there any book or reference about this?
Hope you can help
Best regards..
I have a steel bridge with 50 m span composed witn 4 beam (2400 m height) bracing together.
The problem is because the weight of the beam is not posible to lift two beam together (with bracing), so we have to lift and install the beams one by one.
If we lift and instal one beam this will failt for Lateral Torsional Buckling.
So we need some bracing only for the installation.
There is any "typical" bracing for this situation? there any book or reference about this?
Hope you can help
Best regards..






RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
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RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
Can you get a second crane and transfer the one end load halfway across?
Can you add a horizontal truss to the top of the girder to provide the buckling capacity?
Michael.
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RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
If you can support a long slender flexible beam at the top flange (points "A" in the attached figure), it's more stable than if supported on the bottom flange- not sure if any design methods take this into account- but possibly arrange to support it at the top temporarily until otherwise stabilized.
These are ideas, not things I've tried, so you're on your own for details and analysis.
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
- King posting the first girder
- Launching the girders in pairs instead of crane erecting them
- Use of a second crane (either to erect in pairs or one as a "holding crane" - never used the second myself but have heard/read of it being done)
- Temporary shoring of the girders between the bearings
Without knowing site constraints it is tough to say which solution may be most practical
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RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
BAretired
2400 mm
paddingtongreen
What is the reach of your crane, can it lift at the end of the girder, pixcking up haqlf the weight, and reach across to the embankment?
Can you get a second crane and transfer the one end load halfway across?
We are gonna use two cranes at the same time, nothing else is possible because the cranes available.
JStephen
this is exactly what we need to do. Any document for this calculations?
gwynn
we cant do any of this because the cranes available.
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&...
I would try to get bigger cranes and tie two girders together on the ground before lifting them into place. Bracing a single girder is not an easy prospect.
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RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
When is in place will fail.
I was thinking use a horizontal truss to brace the top flange, but i am not sure about how calculate this truss...
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
In its crudest form, see if you can find a couple 50' long used steel joists. Lay them horiz. on top of the top flg. of your girder, and weld their web diags. to the top flg. This is all to be scarfed off and cleaned up after you get some bracing to another girder in place. This is much like Jstephen’s sketch. The stiffness of the steel joists (their moment of inertia) is related to their ability to restrain the top flg. buckling or torsional buckling of the girder.
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
50' won't quite do it. The span is 50 m.
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RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
I was actually assuming that two or three steel joists would be spliced/cobbled together end to end to approach the length of the girder. I suspected that 164' long bar joists would be kinda tough to find. I also assume that they can do some serious bracing (kickers, etc.) at the two bearing points. With the almost total lack of meaningful info. provided by the OP’ers. on many of these questions there are probably a bunch of possibilities if we only had a better picture of the problem. More and more of the OP’s, these days, have just been a big guessing game for lack of important basic problem delineation info. If they staged the first two girders for quick consecutive picks, maybe a couple lighter cranes at the third points of the first girder could act to hold the first girder during the second lift. Could some of the cross bracing (a few of the braces) be installed on first girder prior to its lift, so they would immediately be in place when the second girder was lifted?
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
One possible problem with the truss solution is that most/many jurisdictions will not let you weld to a bridge girder. I hope the OP has looked into this for acceptance before going too far down that path.
I suggested the use of a holding crane above, and was told no.
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
The problem I have now is how estimate the load for design the truss.
Any idea for this load?
Regards
RE: Erection Bracing for Steel Beam for Bride
If a horizontal truss is used, the compression chord must be braced periodically to prevent buckling. If chords consist of cable, they can't take compression, so in effect, only the leeward truss would be effective with the girder acting as the compression chord.
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