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Double stamping question
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Double stamping question

Double stamping question

(OP)
I stamped a structural drawing in Nevada. Since I stamped the drawing, the permitting authorities have come back and said they want the drawings wet stamped. Can I just "wet stamp" next to the original scanned in stamp? In other words, is it ok for two of my stamps to be on the same drawing with different dates? Thanks!

RE: Double stamping question

I see no problem with doing it. But, you should check with the State Broad to be sure.

Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.

RE: Double stamping question

The other question is why?
In most states one stamp is the same as any other method.
Unless what they really are asking you to do is verify their approval?

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RE: Double stamping question

Well, drawings can be forged. Wet stamping and signing makes that harder. Happened to me twice over the years.

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: Double stamping question

Agree with the above though I would add: "wet stamping, signing and dating makes that harder"

Like msquared's experience I know someone who's seal was lifted. To help counter this some jurisdictions require a wet stamp with a signature and hand-written date written on top of the stamp, with one copy of that kept onsite in the construction trailer to be produced upon request.

RE: Double stamping question

Some boards require stamped PDF's to have some sort of verification in them. I don't see a problem stamping it twice.

RE: Double stamping question

I agree with Archie. Dating is essential too. Especially if you want to get married.

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: Double stamping question

I guess the alternative is to think "what could go wrong stamping it twice"? For what it's worth I'm drawing a blank on that question myself.

Maine EIT, Civil/Structural.

RE: Double stamping question

"what could go wrong stamping it twice"?

The fact that you are dealing with the government maybe?

Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.

RE: Double stamping question

I would reprint and re-seal the drawings if it were me. I doubt the statutes and/or rules and regulations of any state or jurisdiction directly address this situation but I have never seen a sealed document that had two signed and dated seals by the same engineer. It may not be prohibited but it will definitely look odd.

RE: Double stamping question

The wet stamp is an IBC requirement. Most of our drawings are electronically signed but some jurisdictions still want a wet stamp. We've been able to get around that with a wet stamped letter to the jurisdiction indicating that the drawings are in our control. Each jurisdiction has needed a little different wording on the letter to make them happy. Some states actually have an embossed stamp.

RE: Double stamping question

I don't think the IBC has anything about wet stamps in it.

Most states have their very specific rules about what is required re: sealing/signing and electronic methods.

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RE: Double stamping question

Never heard of it being an IBC requirement either. If it is, can you please post the reference section?

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: Double stamping question

I miss-spoke, there is a portion of Washington State's regulations covering the stamping of drawings. Some in state jurisdictions had suddenly required the wet signatures here (I think the building officials all went to a lecture). When it started hitting our office I had heard it was a code issue and that was at about the same time that Washington converted over to the IBC so I assumed it was in the IBC, my mistake.

RE: Double stamping question

Thanks for clarifying that. thanks

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: Double stamping question

Quote (Woodman88)

I see no problem with doing it. But, you should check with the State Broad to be sure

I agree...where do we find her? lol

RE: Double stamping question

Well if we’re going to be discussing dating broads I think we’re probably all at a disadvantage. You know, being engineers…

RE: Double stamping question

Ron,

I would suggest the Arizona State office. But if you check out your State Office let me know if it is worth me applying to your state to check it out myself.

Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.

RE: Double stamping question

Is that anything like the State Bird?

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: Double stamping question

I believe that the British do call ‘broads...’ birds. And, RE: the OP..., offer to cut/rip the electronic stamps off all of the drawings, just the quarter sheet containing the stamp. And, instead you will stamp their forehead with an embossing seal fixed to the head of a 10# sledge hammer. smile

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