Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
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I have been stumped on this for a few days, and so have my colleagues, so I figured why not give asking you all a shot.
I am attempting to design a “center pile tower” for a temporary grain storage unit. A schematic in elevation view can be seen here. Grain is transported up the conveyor inside the catwalk and dumped into the chute inside the middle of the 80’ tall lattice tower, where it eventually comes out through one of the five openings , forming a pile which is covered by a tarp. The capacity of this unit is about 1.5 million bushels, to give you an idea (a bushel is about 1.22 cubic feet, something like that).
The tower is completely open for the bottom 20 feet; the rest of the tower is cladded with 14 gauge steel for the remaining height (except for where there are spouts).
Calculating the wind load was pretty straightforward using chapters 29 and 30 of the ASCE 7-10. Calculating the grain pressure on the tower, however, is where I am stumped. Or at least I think we are being ridiculously conservative. We wanted to investigate different cases to figure out the worst-case load on the tower (empty, ¼ the way full of grain, halfway full, ¾ of the way full, and completely full).
At first, we decided to take the worst case, being all the pressure on just one side of the tower, which would occur if this pile is full and will be emptied out on one side when a door is opened. My model would not converge unless ridiculous sizes were used.
We then decided to see what would happen if we loaded the tower with those loads shown in the last link, except they would act equal and opposite on all four sides, effectively “crushing” the tower. This time, my model converged except for when the storage pile is completely full—the P-delta instabilities likely are due to the angles buckling. Turning the P-delta shears off yields a very overstressed model.
I have taken the equivalent fluid density of grain as 22pcf per this document , and the point loads as 22 times the depth times the area of the bay, then divide in half for a point load on each leg. For example, at a depth of 60 feet (or height of 20 feet), P=22* 60 * 3.7 *5.5/2=13.4kips. Which as I said, is ridiculously conservative given there have been no catastrophic failures of towers built in the past and this load is seen on an annual basis. And I've been scouring the Internet to see what is out there on the subject, but there isn't much.
Thoughts on this anyone? I know my loads are off by a factor of god-knows-how much, but I have little idea on how to prove it.
Thanks, everyone.
I am attempting to design a “center pile tower” for a temporary grain storage unit. A schematic in elevation view can be seen here. Grain is transported up the conveyor inside the catwalk and dumped into the chute inside the middle of the 80’ tall lattice tower, where it eventually comes out through one of the five openings , forming a pile which is covered by a tarp. The capacity of this unit is about 1.5 million bushels, to give you an idea (a bushel is about 1.22 cubic feet, something like that).
The tower is completely open for the bottom 20 feet; the rest of the tower is cladded with 14 gauge steel for the remaining height (except for where there are spouts).
Calculating the wind load was pretty straightforward using chapters 29 and 30 of the ASCE 7-10. Calculating the grain pressure on the tower, however, is where I am stumped. Or at least I think we are being ridiculously conservative. We wanted to investigate different cases to figure out the worst-case load on the tower (empty, ¼ the way full of grain, halfway full, ¾ of the way full, and completely full).
At first, we decided to take the worst case, being all the pressure on just one side of the tower, which would occur if this pile is full and will be emptied out on one side when a door is opened. My model would not converge unless ridiculous sizes were used.
We then decided to see what would happen if we loaded the tower with those loads shown in the last link, except they would act equal and opposite on all four sides, effectively “crushing” the tower. This time, my model converged except for when the storage pile is completely full—the P-delta instabilities likely are due to the angles buckling. Turning the P-delta shears off yields a very overstressed model.
I have taken the equivalent fluid density of grain as 22pcf per this document , and the point loads as 22 times the depth times the area of the bay, then divide in half for a point load on each leg. For example, at a depth of 60 feet (or height of 20 feet), P=22* 60 * 3.7 *5.5/2=13.4kips. Which as I said, is ridiculously conservative given there have been no catastrophic failures of towers built in the past and this load is seen on an annual basis. And I've been scouring the Internet to see what is out there on the subject, but there isn't much.
Thoughts on this anyone? I know my loads are off by a factor of god-knows-how much, but I have little idea on how to prove it.
Thanks, everyone.






RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
Could you please attach schematic drawings again? we can not see anything through any of your link.
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
Maine EIT, Civil/Structural.
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
The material can’t pile up much higher on one side or another than the angle of repose of the material will allow this pile to grow, be that against individual members or some form of cladding . Of course, there could be some extenuating circumstances, these must be taken into account, and your discharge control system must control most of these. It would seem wise not to clad most of the tower, except for the vert. cutes themselves, because of wind loads and these lateral material loads, let er flow and equalize. Aren’t there also extending/retracting cute systems where the cute telescopes back on/into itself as the pile grows?
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
ASABE D252.1 "Tower Silos: Unit Weight of Silage and Silo Capacities"
ASABE EP545 "Loads Exerted by Free Flowing Grain on Shallow Storage Structures"
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
It is really a thick fluid. The angle of repose (really internal friction) keeps it from applying too much lateral pressure.
Put a wall around it and things change a lot.
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RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
I think the material can be unbalanced by a strong wind, I'm thinking of the scouring effects of wind on fallen snow. If my paragraph above is correct, scouring could cause a significant imbalance.
Michael.
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RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
You are correct that wind loading is pretty straight forward.
What you will find is that grain settlement/drag down loads are huge and will bend down and or tear tower diagonals and horizontal off the tower columns if designs don't consider the grain settlement and drag during filling and storage time.
Another issue is what happens if the pile's center tower has a center unloading gate to a tunnel below... The grain loads when empty through the tower center are huge.
Also, if the pile is unloaded from the outside in working across the pile to the pile's center, sliding grain loading on the tower can be huge too and hard on diagonals and horizontals, bow columns, etc.
Most of the damages and failures we see and do repair designs are towers which were too lightly designed and constructed of expected loads the designer didn't know about or consider.
Rod
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Rod
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Rod
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?
RE: Designing a center lattice tower for a temporary grain storage system - calculating grain pressures?