New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
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Dear all,
We have projects using US Federal government regulations that vessels shall be built to 2007 Ed of Div 1 and 2 in US soil.
If there any problem to code stamp and apply national board registration to 2007 Ed for new vessels ?
We have projects using US Federal government regulations that vessels shall be built to 2007 Ed of Div 1 and 2 in US soil.
If there any problem to code stamp and apply national board registration to 2007 Ed for new vessels ?





RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
Can someone have the inside to confirm yes or no ? Thanks.
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
Appeal higher if the book-readers claim you cannot use the modern code.
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
"Contract ABC-123 rev 0.1.45 paragraph 1.2.3.4.5.6.7 dated 1 April 2008 requires the use of ASME Code 2007 Div I. Unless otherwise directed, the following pressure vessels per ABC-123 shall be designed, inspected, constructed and installed IAW the latest approved ASME Code for Pressure Vessels."
Do not require anything more elaborate, do not attract attention to the letter nor the addendum, do NOT ask for a contract change NOR ANY FUNDING INCREASE (and not any decrease either) nor a change in schedule. Just a simple, able-to-be-filed-away paper copy letter that goes in the certification folder.
In other words, let the governemnt "decide" to do what is right and proper and conservative in design and safety for the public by "allowing" them to make a decision by doing - and saying! - nothing.
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
Exactly how I would do it. And as racookpe said, make no 'fuss', ask no questions, etc. Excellent advice.
be vewwy, vewwy quiet. We are hunting wabbits.
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
Attached is the government regulations we are following. Our projects are for private LNG facilities that regulations must be followed to get green light from federal government. Apparently, from ASME code we can not build to old code, and it looks like we have to write a petition for a waiver to government. We try not to write any waiver because it will further delay the projects by at least 6 months for government to review and approve the waiver.
So still back to ground zero, can we build the vessel using 2007 to comply with government regulations while ignoring what's written in ASME code 43-2(b) in US soil ? And can code stamp and NBR be applied ?
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
I have the feeling you know the answer: You're going to be in the wrong on one or the other. Time to get your company's lawyers and contract folks involved.
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RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
Regards,
M.Salaheldin
Static Equipment Mechanical Design Engineer
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
For some background: I'm used to working to specifications that will call out the latest edition of certain standards. And ASME B&PV Code is set up specifically for this. This is especially evident when addendums are issued that are looseleaf and intended to be inserted piecemeal in the code. It means you no longer have the "old" code after you insert the addendum. So all is well there.
However, as was pointed out to me in the Structural forum, typical local building codes will reference a specific year of IBC, and that IBC will reference a specific year of ASCE 7, and that standard references specific years of other standards. So a city may require you to work with a standard that is 14 years out of date. This is all okay, too, until you wind up with exactly the kind of situation you're facing.
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
RE: New vessels built to old 2007 Ed ASME codes
Or, you could have a contract let to build a new Section VIII pressure vessel - say back in 2007 (referencing the 2006 Edition of the Code). Then the project was put on ice during the recession, and only recently resurrected. Following the rules in the Code about the contract date, the vessel could be fabricated to the 2006 Edition and not the most current.
(Just to put this issue into context)