Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
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Hi
Does anybody know where older versions of MIL-5 Materials Handbook may be viewed/downloaded?
So far my Googling finds nothing older than version G.
Many thanks for any help.
Richard
Does anybody know where older versions of MIL-5 Materials Handbook may be viewed/downloaded?
So far my Googling finds nothing older than version G.
Many thanks for any help.
Richard





RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
AR MMPDS-01 was identical to mil hdbk 5 ... but maybe you're looking up something old ?
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
Original release of MIL-HDBK-5 (1962) and all subsequent revisions (rev A thru rev J) available for download in .pdf format.
Hope that helps.
Terry
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
For instance, between Mil-Hdbk-5H and AR-MMPDS-01, the allowable shear strength of a MS20470AD4 rivet went from 388 pounds to 389 pounds.
For some, this earth-shattering news may go over with a whimpering "so what"?
For others, such as folks who have to read old stress reports and wonder "where the heck did that number come from", we have to go back to the old book that was used back in the day, and discover that the allowables for common materials were a little different. Watching the evolution of the documents, it's been interesting to see some things "disappear" as the years go by.
Finding a copy of Mil-Hdbk-5 before revision H is bound to be difficult, because before that time, very few documents were scanned or published electronically for distribution. Because it was the '90s.
I started working on aircraft using Mil-Hdbk-5E, on paper of course, and didn't start referring to an electronic copy until after getting the PDF at "J". So I don't have a PDF that goes that far back either. Sorry.
If you find an engineering office with a paper copy in the library, maybe you can buy it, borrow it, or scan it, otherwise you'll have to cough up the cash for IHS.
STF
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
Many thanks for the comments/help made by all. The source "IHS Standards Store "of old versions was very helpful. Somebody else must now decide if the costs can be justified.
Yes, the question arises from trying to trace old references.
I actually started when version C was current and European companies had their own paper copies which had to be "purchased".
As the work is US Government "sponsored", I'm surprised that no official free archive exists.
Richard
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
http://quicksearch.dla.mil/qsDocDetails.aspx?ident...
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RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
There's also data from the precursor ANC-5 in there.
STF
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Thanks, great finding! I was looking for years for this version. I had it in paper form at work but it was stupidly discarded when the new version came. I like the fatigue life diagrams of this version far beyond the new fatigue life system in the newer versions such as MIL-HDBK-5J.
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
What is unnerving is when you notice allowables drop significantly due to real-world statistics finally catching-up with original best estimates. And then of course, stress corrosion cracking, corrosion, weldability and fatigue durability numbers are problematic [if not present] in these old documents.
For my work, I [have-to] have access to the ANC-5 (2 versions so-far), all the main MIL-HDBK-5 [Org thru J volumes + most ammendments] and MMPDS-01 thru -08.... plus my company's design manuals and the Aerospace Structural Metals Handbook [ASMH] series.
Curse of working on antique jets.
Anyone have published/unpublished TENSION allowables for flush and protruding head solid rivets???
Regards, Wil Taylor
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RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
PS: Some civil engineering (steel) rivet tension/shear data attached. Might be a few clues in there. Plus of course your own posts from 20-Sep-2005 and 05-Oct-2005 (which I took a copy of). (Cherry has blind rivet tension but no solids.) rb1957 is right: McCombs Appendix A table A20 has solid prot head and csk 2117T3 rivets.
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
BTW... I've always wanted independent confirmation of the way I've been forced to calculate rivet tension allowables.
Uhhhhh.... I do have a copies of ANC-5, 1949, 1951, 1955. However, 1955 version was specifically modified/annotated by my company for internal use... and includes a company unique document number and annotations through-out the pages.
Regards, Wil Taylor
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We believe to be true what we prefer to be true.
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RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
STF
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook
Regards, Wil Taylor
Trust - But Verify!
We believe to be true what we prefer to be true.
For those who believe, no proof is required; for those who cannot believe, no proof is possible.
Unfortunately, in science what You 'believe' is irrelevant – "Orion"
RE: Old Versions of MIL-5 Material Handbook