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Michigan Boiler Inspection Test - Good, Bad or Indifferent for an out-of-state PE?

Michigan Boiler Inspection Test - Good, Bad or Indifferent for an out-of-state PE?

Michigan Boiler Inspection Test - Good, Bad or Indifferent for an out-of-state PE?

(OP)
I've been asked to start the processing to take the next Michigan Boiler Inspection Test (June, 2014. Application deadline would be 30 days prior to the test.)

1. Any negative consequences if a PE (from out-of-state) cert's the fabrication of a pipe or weldment in Michigan that he didn't actually design?

2. Their documentation includes the following:

Quote (MI Application)

If you are taking the boiler repairer’s exam (class I-IV), you need to study:
a. The Michigan Boiler Rules – 2013 edition (effective November 30, 2013)
b. The Michigan Boiler Act 290 of 1965 (amended February 12, 2014)
c. ASME Code Sections I, IV, IX, 2013 edition. B31.1 – 2012 edition
d. National Board Inspection Code – 2007 edition

Anything other recommendations for what to study, any effective on-line courses or programs in advance of the test - assuming my company does pay!
And any other documents you'd recommend I bring with me?

RE: Michigan Boiler Inspection Test - Good, Bad or Indifferent for an out-of-state PE?

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Any negative consequences if a PE (from out-of-state) cert's the fabrication of a pipe or weldment in Michigan that he didn't actually design?

What in heavens sake does the question above have to do with registration for a State Boiler Inspector's position for Michigan? To answer this question, of course it is unethical for a licensed PE to certify a design without having any direct involvement with the design.

RE: Michigan Boiler Inspection Test - Good, Bad or Indifferent for an out-of-state PE?

Do you mean since you will be a inspector that is also a PE will there be consequences certifying the weld? You are not doing it as a PE, you are doing it as a Michigan boiler inspector that happens to be a PE.

RE: Michigan Boiler Inspection Test - Good, Bad or Indifferent for an out-of-state PE?

(OP)

Quote (ztengguy)

Do you mean since you will be a inspector that is also a PE will there be consequences certifying the weld? You are not doing it as a PE, you are doing it as a Michigan boiler inspector that happens to be a PE.

That was how I was reading my (potential) liability: I wasn't inside the design studies, nor have I seen or reviewed the calc's setting original design criteria (fluids, corrosion allowances, pressures, cycles, or temperatures, flow rates, weld sizes or fittings.) but am going to be responsible for verifying that the fabricator executed the details on each of the dwg's correctly.

RE: Michigan Boiler Inspection Test - Good, Bad or Indifferent for an out-of-state PE?

You are not going to stamp any drawings with your PE stamp correct, you are going to certify it with your Michigan boiler inspection stamp. I dont see an issue. I would think that a inspector being a PE would be better, less likely to miss anything.

RE: Michigan Boiler Inspection Test - Good, Bad or Indifferent for an out-of-state PE?

I've been giving this a great deal of thought since first seeing this thread some days ago... I suspect your liability is increased over that of a "regular" Boiler Inspector due to the fact that the courts will recognise that you ARE, regardless of whether you are acting as such or not, a Professional Engineer.

I believe the classic test of "knew or aught to have known better" will be unfairly levied and weighted against you.

Personally I would not do this.

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