P&ID Comparisons with the finished systems
P&ID Comparisons with the finished systems
(OP)
Would anybody at this forum know of any resources that show the actual P&ID
used to produced the finished equipment. I am very interested in seeing comparisons between
the P&ID and a finished 3d model or photos of the actual process or equipment
made using the P&ID. P&IDs don't show you how to physically arrange the piping,
valves, equipment etc. I would like to compare the P&ID with the reality of
the finished item so I can better understand the reasoning behind the finished
layout.
Regards
Gaitano99
used to produced the finished equipment. I am very interested in seeing comparisons between
the P&ID and a finished 3d model or photos of the actual process or equipment
made using the P&ID. P&IDs don't show you how to physically arrange the piping,
valves, equipment etc. I would like to compare the P&ID with the reality of
the finished item so I can better understand the reasoning behind the finished
layout.
Regards
Gaitano99





RE: P&ID Comparisons with the finished systems
Regarding your question. The P&IDs are "schematic" drawings, the physical plant is the real thing. You will never see a P&ID that resembles the physical plant or a physical plant that resembles the P&ID. It is not reasonable to expect this or strive for it.
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I appreciate your response but I thought it would be interesting to review actual P&IDs along with their
finished systems. I realize the physical appearance of the finished system will not look exact to the P&ID
schematic. I was hoping to find a resource that I could see those comparisons. I think it would
be educational to provide some form of comparison of P&IDs and their finished appearance. Like have the same
P&ID modeled by 5 designers and then compare the results. I think a lot could be learned from this. I find
it interesting to read about how designers resolve issues with P&IDs.
Thanks
Gaitano
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What is it that you expect to see different - or have observed to be different - between the P&ID and the 3-D model or the actual plant? They should end up in complete agreement. "Designers" (i.e. drafts persons) are not at liberty to take the P&IDs under advisement and make discretionary changes.
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I could be wrong, but it seems to me that you are interested in details regarding the art (discipline ?) of piping design.
Six different piping designers will arrange the piping six different ways
Consider purchasing any of these books:
http://www.amazon.com/Pipe-Drafting-Design-Second-...
http://www.amazon.com/Process-Piping-Drafting-Rip-...
http://www.bentley.com/ar-AE/Training/Products/Res...
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
Venture Engineering & Construction
www.VentureEngr.com
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L. Hariharan, Essar Projects India Limited, Hydrocarbon SBU, India.
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