Simple footer question - eccentricity in both axes
Simple footer question - eccentricity in both axes
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Alright.....this is driving me nuts.
I'm designing a simple square mat subjected to eccentricity in 2 directions and I'd like to permit partial uplift for the load condition, as long as the bearing pressure stays within reason.
First....imagine a basic square/rectangular footer pad subjected to eccentricity in only ONE direction. The resultant vertical downward load falls outside of uni-directional "kern" (middle 1/3 of footer length). This condition no longer allows the use of q = (P/A) + (MC/I) to find the maximum bearing pressure since there will be uplift and a reduced bearing area, however, since it's only 1-axis, it's still easy to find the maximum bearing pressure. I simply find the effective bearing length due to the location of the resultant upward pressure (in-line with the resultant downward load P) and solve for qmax. Easy, right?
Ok...now imagine the same basic square/rectangular footer pad subjected to eccentricity in BOTH directions. The resultant vertical downward load falls outside of the bi-directional diamond shaped "kern" of the footer. Is there a graphical or numerical solution to finding qmax? Can you look at each axis separately and superimpose/add the bearing pressure from each direction? It just seems like the pressure distribution could be very complex, even with linear assumptions.
The conservative thing to do is simply make the mat large enough to eliminate uplift altogether, but I was just trying to save some concrete.
What am I missing here?
I'm designing a simple square mat subjected to eccentricity in 2 directions and I'd like to permit partial uplift for the load condition, as long as the bearing pressure stays within reason.
First....imagine a basic square/rectangular footer pad subjected to eccentricity in only ONE direction. The resultant vertical downward load falls outside of uni-directional "kern" (middle 1/3 of footer length). This condition no longer allows the use of q = (P/A) + (MC/I) to find the maximum bearing pressure since there will be uplift and a reduced bearing area, however, since it's only 1-axis, it's still easy to find the maximum bearing pressure. I simply find the effective bearing length due to the location of the resultant upward pressure (in-line with the resultant downward load P) and solve for qmax. Easy, right?
Ok...now imagine the same basic square/rectangular footer pad subjected to eccentricity in BOTH directions. The resultant vertical downward load falls outside of the bi-directional diamond shaped "kern" of the footer. Is there a graphical or numerical solution to finding qmax? Can you look at each axis separately and superimpose/add the bearing pressure from each direction? It just seems like the pressure distribution could be very complex, even with linear assumptions.
The conservative thing to do is simply make the mat large enough to eliminate uplift altogether, but I was just trying to save some concrete.
What am I missing here?






RE: Simple footer question - eccentricity in both axes
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RE: Simple footer question - eccentricity in both axes
If given the option, I never design a footing to not have full bearing for anything other than transient load.
Have you taken advantage of the soil overburden weight? That often helps if you have a footing with a large footprint.
RE: Simple footer question - eccentricity in both axes
Lion06 - it's a 4-column frame centered on the mat. It is transient load. No overburden present.
RE: Simple footer question - eccentricity in both axes
RE: Simple footer question - eccentricity in both axes
From your description you have a concentric application with a base moment. For that, I agree with Lion06...don't lose bearing. Concrete is relatively cheap. If you spend 3 or 4 hours trying to figure it out, that would buy another 5 to 10 cy of concrete. In many cases like this, the overturning moment resistance prevails over the bearing pressure analysis.
RE: Simple footer question - eccentricity in both axes