Liquid Slosh in containers
Liquid Slosh in containers
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Hi,
I am an individual inventor working on a system that eliminates liquid slosh in rigid containers. I would like to find out whether there is a demand for slosh elimination at all. All constructive thoughts and opinions are appreciated. Please help!
Thanks
I am an individual inventor working on a system that eliminates liquid slosh in rigid containers. I would like to find out whether there is a demand for slosh elimination at all. All constructive thoughts and opinions are appreciated. Please help!

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RE: Liquid Slosh in containers
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Carrying fuel in volume that could otherwise be used to carry revenue-generating cargo or passengers is not efficient for the bottom line.
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Do you think there's a need or place for such an invention?
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why would this allow thinner wings ? i think typical design starts with the wing aero design, then fuel is considered later. (i don't think the wing is designed from the outset to accommodate a fuel volume.)
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RE: Liquid Slosh in containers
the concept for the invention is simple and I'm hoping that its applications would save a lot of the hassle associated with having multiple tankers.
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What category and type of aircraft might it be used in?
In general, the wings of an aircraft are not designed around the wing tanks. The wings are designed to meet the aerodynamic and structural requirements. Then whatever space inside the wings that isn't full of other important stuff gets used for fuel tanks because that's about the only possible use for the space.
A nice bonus of wing tanks is that the fuel weight is placed relatively close to the fore-aft CG location, so that burning fuel in the wing tanks doesn't affect trim and balance.
RE: Liquid Slosh in containers
The invention would apply to any vehicle that carries a considerable amount of liquids, either for consumption or as cargo. It eliminates slosh and allows for center of gravity control. I posed the question in this forum because I thought airplanes would be a major potential market for the concept.
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Ships use fuel, and on certain sizes and types fuel slosh might be something where slosh control could be useful.
There are classes of agricultural and construction vehicles where big tanks are sometimes bolted on, with limits on the amount of liquid, speed, grade etc. imposed. So there is a potential market.
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I agree, from the idealistic perspective.
From the practical perspective, unless there is a benefit to the bottom line it won't happen.
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you wouldn't be able to mod existing tankers ... presumably they meet the standards fully loaded ... it's not like you can put more fuel into the tanks. new build tankers offer a chance ... amybe this new idea could save some weight in the tank ?? but you probably wouldn't want to make the tank bigger (to carry more fuel).
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Does the invention make those tasks harder or easier?
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thanks for sharing your thoughts. If there's anyone who has more to say please don't hesitate.
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http://www.freepatentsonline.com/result.html?sort=...
Unless you can show demonstrable improvement in cost-benefit, the prospects are dim.
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RE: Liquid Slosh in containers
I agree with you IRstuff. I've known of these other solutions and am not under the impression that nobody has a solution. I believe that I have an interesting improvement, but not sure if the additional improvement is worth the investment.
The link was helpful, I actually had an attorney perform a patent search where we found a lot of solutions to the problem but none used the same method and none were as theoretically effective as my concept.
RE: Liquid Slosh in containers
However, the fuel systems of fighter aircraft routinely experience huge variation in dynamic forces which would result in significant "sloshing". Also, the liquid fuel systems of rockets also experience huge dynamic forces that can result in fuel tank "sloshing". So you might consider applying your invention to either of these applications.
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It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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I currently work with helicopters that have similar systems, some of which even allow for a segregated tank with partial water drop for multiple smaller drops from a single fillup. (lots of one-way valves)