ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
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Does anyone know of some comparison that would give an idea of what EN 13445 material is equivalent to an ASME Section II-D material? Such as the EN 13445 equivalent for SA-516 70 or SA-240 304.
Thanks for the help,
Dale
Thanks for the help,
Dale





RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
- http://files.asme.org/STLLC/12195.pdf
- www.unm.fr/main/download.php?file=144_FICHIER_0.pd...
- or simply Google
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
I'd downloaded the STP-PT-007 from ASME but had to do it as a locked one user PDF so I was surprized to see your unconrolled link to it on ASME's site.
Dale
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
I've been looking at a site called SteelNumber.com
Thanks,
Dale
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
SA182-F91 \ EN 10222-2 X10CrMoV 9-1
A/SA 335 P22 \ EN 10028-2 10CrMo9-10
A/SA 335 P1 \ EN 10028-2 16Mo3
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
For B7, try 42CrMo4
For B8, try X5CrNi18-10
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
Again, for use by ASME you need to have the approved material specification approved, not an equivalent.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
EN specification approved for plate, not seamless pipe by ASME Section II.
EN specification not approved for seamless pipe. For tube supplied under EN 10216-2.
2013 Edition of ASME Section II.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
Not approved for use for ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code unless dual certification under an ASME material specification.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
maybe he just wants to know equivalency, e.g. since he built ASME vessels in the past and now seeks EN material for a new job containing an EN vessel.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
Good point. When it comes to ASME standards and codes, I hear the phrase "equivalent materials" and it sends a big red flag that folks can simply substitute materials because a publication mentions they are equivalent. ASME Section II is starting to gain momentum on reviewing/adopting EN standards and certain material grades with stress lines for use in vessel construction.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
he mentioned that the EU-standard on welding (EN ISO 9606) is getting closer to/with sect IX. any comments/info you may have on that?
wrong, hEN (harmonized EN standard) and ASME BPV dont have that relation. when a hEN is applied within a directive e.g. PED 97/23/EC, then (usually by means of annex ZA) it has inherent conformance to the directive.
there's no such of the application of a hEN with ASME BPV.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
No, unfortunately I do not. I am a member of Section I standards committee. Was the Section IX individual W Sperko? Are you a member of EPRI? The problem with construction code harmonization is that commercial interests (cost, protection of turf) are driving the bus and not technical harmonization.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
Same thing as the guy I spoke said. He's a dutch guy (so not Sperko) who's in sec IX as a delegate (I think as of recently - 2013 edt?).
He also has a chair in some ISO WPG/committee on welding (obviously EN ISO 9606and EN 287), so it was interesting to hear his POV on how ASME committes work, and how ISO committees.
Funny thing was he favoured the way ASME committees work over ISO
Im not a member of EPRI.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
Perhaps my message was not clear, I didn't mean to say the there was official recognition or approval by standards and codes bodies, just that EN 10269 parts are used in applications similar to ASME B&PV. Or stated differently, general applications use ASTM F568 and/or ISO 898, while pressure applications use ASTM A193 and/or EN 10269. I got the impression that dalea60 was looking for materials that are used widely in Europe for PED conformance.
RE: ASME Material Conversion to EN 13445
I'm looking at running calcs for EN 13445, trying to use materials that would equate to the ASME materials that we would use if it was designed to Section VIII Div 1.
Dale