Moment connection by full penetration weld
Moment connection by full penetration weld
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Hi all. I have 2 beams of the same size that will be supported by a girder (also same size). The beam on the right will have a moment due to cantilever action and the beam on the left will balance out that moment (because its other end is pinned). Will Full penetration weld be enough to constitute as a moment connection, to transfer the moment from one beam to another?
I would usually put the beam on top of the girder so that the beam would act like a continuous beam, but the architect would not let me do that.
I would usually put the beam on top of the girder so that the beam would act like a continuous beam, but the architect would not let me do that.






RE: Moment connection by full penetration weld
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RE: Moment connection by full penetration weld
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I think that a girder separates the two beams, at this time I don't know the girder size, but I doubt this is going to be a simple arrangement of flanges and webs. but then again I could have read it wrong. I would really love a sketch.
http://www.nceng.com.au/
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
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Dik
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Providing fabrication and erection efficient structural design of connections. Consulting services for structural welding and bolting.
RE: Moment connection by full penetration weld
rowingengineer - steel size would be 203x203x46.1 kg/m for all beams. The full penetration weld will be at the flange of the beam to the flange of the supporting girder. Sorry I dont have a sketch.
hokie66 - I agree with you on the bolted connection, I also prefer bolted connections compared to welded connections due to quality issues especially on site welded steel members.
dik - The architect "prefers" not to see any bolting on the steel members.
connectegr - Thank you for your comment. Do i need to check the girder for any localize failure? ie tension/compression of the flanges? Do you have any good references when designing such a connection.
RE: Moment connection by full penetration weld
www.FerrellEngineering.com
Providing fabrication and erection efficient structural design of connections. Consulting services for structural welding and bolting.
RE: Moment connection by full penetration weld
RE: Moment connection by full penetration weld
Trilinga
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RE: Moment connection by full penetration weld
Trilinga - I have tried bargaining with the flange plates, but the archi didnt allow it.
Ron - Sad thing is we have to live through it