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(OP)
Hi,

I am new to the forum but I have been reading plenty of posts but I have had to many problems with the Nx 6 system to list so it's about time I join and start my own thread.

Its rather simple things just cant figure them out for the life of me nor does anyone else seem to have this problem.

But up until recently I was doing fine by clicking the Assemblies and click add component. Unfortunately, I click on assemblies and add component is not there. Nor is the Assemblies constraint add button on the bottom of my screen. I have included screen shots

I do not understand what happened just all of a sudden while I was working on the file the assemblies constraint button was gone and now I cant add a component.

Now when I also try to suppress something it states "cannot suppress constraint, not in Assemblies" How am I not in Assemblies when I am editing an assembly I just built not 2 secs ago....

PLEASE HELP ME!

RE: Problems

Select - Start - Asemblies to activate the assemblies license

John Joyce
N.C. Programming Supervisor
Barnes Aerospace, Windsor CT
NX6 & NX7.5

RE: Problems

(OP)
Thank you so much! That fixed everything!

Still don't understand why it decided to randomly turn that off when I am editing components.

RE: Problems

You may want to check to see if someone has messed with the following,...

Customer Defaults -> Assemblies -> General -> Miscellaneous

...and see if the 'Restore Assemblies Application' option has been toggled OFF. If it's OFF, then each time you launch a new session of NX the Assemblies license will NOT be activated and you will have to manually toggle it back ON.

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RE: Problems

(OP)
Got another problem...

After I import a DWG file into a new file only part of it appears but when I import it into a different file it shows up. I am sure it has nothing to do with the file it self but probably just a box that needs to be check marked. I just wanna know where and what it is.

Thanks,

Myke

RE: Problems

Hm, Have you tried to fit the view in the model where it doesn't appear in full ?
Dxf and Dwg files also contain both layer structure and (sometimes) View dependent objects.
Fit the view.
Drag a rectangle around everything , note the object count above the graphics window "n objects selected". Press escape.
Format - Layer settings , compare to object count in the third column.
If there are invisible layers, turn them on.
Re check visible object count to what the layer dialog notes.

Right- click in the graphics - Replace View - Custom Views... Try Active 1 ( Uncertain if this is the correct name)
It might contain / display objects which have not been visible before such as texts.

Regards,
Tomas

RE: Problems

(OP)
That worked but now although I can see it in my model view, my draft on the other hand is not showing it.

Thanks,

Myke

RE: Problems

Which / what worked ?
The view dependent objects, the layer settings or the Fit View ?

RE: Problems

(OP)
I actually had to do both I had to go into layer settings and set all layers visible, which restored some of it then the last bit was brought into view when I hit fit screen. But it still doesn't appear in my draft/drawing sheet only in my model sheet. I again thought it was something to do with layers so I turned all visible yet that doesn't do anything. So I am still stuck. Any advice? I am not sure if I mentioned it before but it is a DWG 2d file.

Thanks again!

RE: Problems

Ok,
When you place a view on a drawing, the layer setting for that specific view becomes "locked".
Say that you have objects on 1,7,15. L1 is Worklayer,
7 and 15 are invisible and then you place the view.
The view will from now on have a "view specific layer mask", which only shows layer 1.
If you then make Layer 7 and 15 Visible / selectable, nothing will happen in the placed view.

This is as intended, it allows you to show different details from the same model in different views.

All views that are produced from this view will get ( inherit) the same "view specific layer mask".
( Projected views, Detail views, Section views.)

If you add a second "Base view", it will get the current layer settings, ( 1+7+15) and eventual children of this base view will inherit it's layer mask.

If you want to change the existing view, use Format- Layers visible in view - select the view- select which layers you desire to make invisible/ visible. ( Note that "selectability" is controlled from the "layer settings". - If L7 is "Invisible" under layer settings but "Visible in view" you cannot select the objects on L7. The only function which can select these objects is the "Information - Object".)

NEVER use the Layers visible in view in other scenarios unless you are very confident in what you are doing.
It is fully possible to make the worklayer invisible... - then what you create becomes invisible. - I have seen cases where somebody had created ~15 identical solids, invisible.

regards,
Tomas

RE: Problems

(OP)
Thank you for your response. It was very well layed out. I am new to nx though so it is slightly above my head but I did understand fairly well.
OK well I tried going into drafting and I clicked on make all layers visible( I do not know which layer it is specifically), however there is still no view of what I want to see.

So I am trying to understand this layer thing. But why is it visible on the modeling view but when I enter drafting it is not there. I understand you with inheriting its visible layers but when I make all layers visible and the image still doesn't come up but it is visible in modeling shouldn't it inherit the visible view especially if I turn on all layers to be visible?

Thanks

Mike

RE: Problems

(OP)
I would like to add that all layers in the prt file of the object that is not being displayed are visible. And when I do make all layers visible in the draft the datum coordinate system for that object shows up but no object.

Thanks,

Mike

RE: Problems

(OP)
Anybody...?

Been struggling on this for about 2 weeks now...kinda wanna put this one behind me...

Thanks,

Mike

RE: Problems

Look at the reference sets. And make sure they are set up in your parts. usually the drawing uses the "model" reference set to display the master model part. Much info on this site on reference sets. Also make sure you have layer visible in all views is turned to global. Also make sure you use show hide command to show all.

RE: Problems

(OP)
Thanks for the response,

I looked to see what reference set I am on and I am on entire part. It doesn't off model, I did make sure i am on global reference set and it didn't do anything I will try it again though if I ever solve the reference sat issue. And where is the show all command.

Thanks,

Mike

RE: Problems

(OP)
OK I did find the show all command tried it out and it is still not visible.

Mike

RE: Problems

(OP)
I also did find the reference set and made sure the component I wanna see it in model and it is.

So back to square one.

Is there anything else I can check or try to do to make this thing visible.

Thanks,

Mike

RE: Problems

Do you have the drawing updated? I assume this is a single part model correct? Not an assembly of multiple components. If all else fails call GTAC. They can run you through all kinds of solutions over the phone pretty quick.

RE: Problems

Sounds like all geometry imported into the Modeling application and you've yet to actually place a view on the face of the dwg?

Tim Flater
NX Designer
NX 7.5.4.4 MP8
WinXP Pro x64 SP2
Intel Xeon 2.53 GHz 6GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro 4000 2GB

RE: Problems

(OP)
I guess I should provide a bit more info,

I imported a dwg file into an assembly to give reference how big I can make the assembly. When I go into the drafting portion of nx I place a top down view to show that there is room between my dwg imported part and my assembly. But although I see this dwg file in my modeling portion of nx it fails to show any existence on my drafting portion. Every little change I do I update the whole drafting sheet, since I have currently 4 views and 2 of them should show the dwg component but nothing has worked so far. Is it possible that importing it, I should have done something differently. I should also mention I didn't just import the dwg file right onto the assembly rather import it into a new model sheet and then saved it, and added that component into the assembly. This made the component easier to move.

So any clue how to get this thing visible?

Thanks,


Mike

RE: Problems

Go back to your model,
make sure that you can see some of the objects that are missing in the drawing. Select one object and press Information- Object.
In the listing window, look for "View dependent"( View Specific ?) and
find what layer it resides on, and the name of the view.
If it is "View dependent" it will ONLY appear in a copy of that specific view on the drawing. Check The drawing what view you have placed there. ( Information -Object or Part navigator.
Regards,
Tomas

RE: Problems

Imported drawings tend to import to a single layer/view. Reste all layer settings for your views to global, all layers visible.

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Ben Loosli

RE: Problems

In addition to the above suggestions, revisit the layer option you used when you added the part as a component to your assembly. Right click on your component in the assembly navigator, choose properties and pick the assembly tab; for the layer option, I'd suggest using 'specified layer' and choose layer 1.

If you had chosen the 'original' layer option when adding it to the assembly and the geometry is on various layers within the part, the layer masks may be hiding some of the geometry in the drafting views.


Also, it has probably already been mentioned, but you should switch to the 'entire part' reference set; or make sure all the geometry is in the reference set that you are using.

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RE: Problems

(OP)
Tomas-I have found that it resides on layer 1 and it states "object dependency in unavailable"

Looslib- I have done this, still nothing.

Cowshi _ OK I put it on specified layer 1, updated all drawings and still nothing.


I am pushing now close to 3 weeks working on this *!#$@? thing, is there any other suggestions, I need this on my bosses desk by Tuesday. I am close to just deleting it and draw a close box of the imported image and just putting a note saying what it is.

Thanks,

Mike

RE: Problems

(OP)
OK well I started a new assembly and have to redo all my work. Cause only then can I get the dwg file to show itself on the drafting templates. So what ever go screwed up I couldn't care less about anymore. So this thread is dead and for anyone else who reads this with my problem

There is no solution...start over

Mike

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