NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
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These functions has been moved from Modeling to Sheet Metal in NX 8.
How can I bring them back (the Icons) in Modeling ?
How can I bring them back (the Icons) in Modeling ?





RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
John R. Baker, P.E.
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To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
If all you want to do is ADD a new NX Sheet Metal flange to an existing model and that's all that you're doing with no plans to flatten the model or create a flat-pattern layout for a Drawing or to manufacture the unbent 'blank', then there's no need to convert your existing model to be a 'sheet metal' model.
However, if you DO plan on flattening it or to create a 2D wireframe flat-pattern either to create a Drawing or to define the profile to cut the blank, then yes, you will need to eventually convert your simple solid model into a 'sheet metal' model using the tools provided in NX Sheet Metal.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
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To the Toolmaker, your nice little cartoon drawing of your glass looks cool, but your solid model sucks. Do you want me to fix it, or are you going to take all week to get it back to me so I can get some work done?
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=345197
Proud Member of the Reality-Based Community..
To the Toolmaker, your nice little cartoon drawing of your glass looks cool, but your solid model sucks. Do you want me to fix it, or are you going to take all week to get it back to me so I can get some work done?
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
Regression, anyone?
Proud Member of the Reality-Based Community..
To the Toolmaker, your nice little cartoon drawing of your glass looks cool, but your solid model sucks. Do you want me to fix it, or are you going to take all week to get it back to me so I can get some work done?
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
Proud Member of the Reality-Based Community..
To the Toolmaker, your nice little cartoon drawing of your glass looks cool, but your solid model sucks. Do you want me to fix it, or are you going to take all week to get it back to me so I can get some work done?
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
If you have examples of models which you cannot create using NX Sheet Metal, Advanced Sheet Metal or Aerospace Sheet Metal modules, but which you were able to create prior to the introduction of the current set of tools, PLEASE CONTACT GTAC AND PROVIDE THEM THESE EXAMPLES! Asking that old, obsolete code should somehow remain available in perpetuity simply because you like it better or you somehow feel that it did a better job is just wishful thinking. If you can demonstrate that we have NOT fully transferred the capabilities and functionality of these older tools into the latest set of replacement products then your ONLY recourse is to provide us examples of that so that we can work on bringing the current tools up to the level that they need to be to do the job. Have you EVER done this, provide us with real world examples of what you were able to do in the past but which you cannot do now? If not, why not?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
SM Design has worked rather nicely for many years to flatten parts. It is being replaced with a tool that does not function at 100%, and will not always unfold all NX designs.
Is there anything in the statement above that is not true?
Proud Member of the Reality-Based Community..
To the Toolmaker, your nice little cartoon drawing of your glass looks cool, but your solid model sucks. Do you want me to fix it, or are you going to take all week to get it back to me so I can get some work done?
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
A decision has to be made whether $$$$money$$$$ should be spent to re-train designers to use these new complicated NX tools THAT DON"T WORK, or to investigate other software that can flatten anything you can throw at it.
Right now, NX can't flatten everything. It used to be able to flatten everything.
The new tools that replace SM Design can't do it. We have to have alternative flattening software if tools that work are being taken away.
Proud Member of the Reality-Based Community..
To the Toolmaker, your nice little cartoon drawing of your glass looks cool, but your solid model sucks. Do you want me to fix it, or are you going to take all week to get it back to me so I can get some work done?
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
However, your premise that you are not willing or able to learn to properly use the tools that you've apparently paid for, and I assume are continuing to pay maintenance on, seems to be a poor rational for somehow demanding that we bring back software which has been deemed obsolete for years now. What you're paying for is continued development of software that will evolve as new techniques and development environments changes as well as customer requirements, but without input from our customers when these goals are not achieved helps no one, certainly not you when you appear to not even be utilizing the tools that we've provided.
So until you answer my outstanding questions, I'll be ignoring further comments posted since without those answers, this exchange is nothing more than so much noise and as such, is accomplishing nothing.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX8 - Flange, General Flange, Form / Unform
It seemed a simple solution to our problem here, as we sure didn't characterize this SM Design tool to be obsolete, at all. A bullet-proof working tool (SM Design) was taken away, and we wanted it back. The replacement tools proposed do not function at 100% currently.
We will indeed revisit flattening parts again soon, but I am hedging my bet that NX's new tools still won't flatten everything, like it always used to. I don't know if you call that a regression or not, but I do. Hell, we can't even agree what a "sheet metal" part is..!
We will look for better software for this critical function in the meantime. We know there are better offerings out there.
Proud Member of the Reality-Based Community..
To the Toolmaker, your nice little cartoon drawing of your glass looks cool, but your solid model sucks. Do you want me to fix it, or are you going to take all week to get it back to me so I can get some work done?