Canadian Earthquake Design
Canadian Earthquake Design
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Using the National Building Code of Canada, we calculate a value of Ve, which represents the force that a building would experience if it were designed to respond elastically. The code then allows us to reduce this load by a factor of R, which is a number that represents the ability of the structural brace to respond in a ductile manner.
The idea behind all of this is to have the ductile brace yield at a lower force than that which can be delivered by an earthquake. By doing so, the remaining components of the structure, such as the roof diaphragm and the footings, etc. only have to be designed for a little bit more than the force that it takes to yield the brace.
However, if the brace is designed too strong, the roof diaphragm and the footings must also be increased accordingly.
The problem that I have, is that I can't figure out how to get an EBF, a Moment Resisting Frame, or a CBF to yield at exactly Ve*.6/R for a single storey building. There always seems to be some other criteria that makes the frame stronger, such as deflection limits, etc.
Has anybody else had this problem?
Dave Tipler
The idea behind all of this is to have the ductile brace yield at a lower force than that which can be delivered by an earthquake. By doing so, the remaining components of the structure, such as the roof diaphragm and the footings, etc. only have to be designed for a little bit more than the force that it takes to yield the brace.
However, if the brace is designed too strong, the roof diaphragm and the footings must also be increased accordingly.
The problem that I have, is that I can't figure out how to get an EBF, a Moment Resisting Frame, or a CBF to yield at exactly Ve*.6/R for a single storey building. There always seems to be some other criteria that makes the frame stronger, such as deflection limits, etc.
Has anybody else had this problem?
Dave Tipler






RE: Canadian Earthquake Design
You might want to try several bays of tension-only flat bar bracing, which gives you ability to just size it strong enough, if it's allowed to be considered a Ductile Concentrically Braced Frame.
I haven't done any building work for a couple of years, but I have had the same problem.
Tip: in approx 8 years of designing buildings in Canada, we NEVER used an R=4 moment frame or an R=3 braced frame. We always went for nominal ductility.
Remember, however you size your brace, the connections must withstand the full yield load, so t/c bracing is horribly inefficient.
Thats my 2 cents...
RE: Canadian Earthquake Design
Your response is consistent with the recommendations of the CISC. However, as we know, tension only plate braces have been found to be terrible bracing members for earthquake loading. After one cycle of loading, the plates have stretched. It goes down hill from there.
There has to be something we're missing. Why would the code tease us by making us think that it is possible to use an R=3 or R=4?
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One issue I had with using flat bar bracing was with a drawings examiner (from an unnamed Canadian city) that didn't want flat bar used because it didn't satisfy Clause 10.2.2 from S16.1 (M89). In a flat bar the slenderness ratio is well over 300, and he wouldn't let it slide past even though it's a recommended clause. To save time we changed all the flat bars to angles. Have you ever had a similar problem??
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I've never heard of plate braces being so bad, I thought that you WANT them to yield...
RE: Canadian Earthquake Design
Remember, for wind to govern, the wind load has to be greater than Ve*.6. You cannot compare the wind to Ve*.6/R where R is greater that 1.
If you want more information, you can check out the earthquake design book entitled "Ductile Design of Steel Structures" by Michel Bruneau.
You don't really need any liturature if you think carefully about the concept, however. Ve, actually Ve*.6 is the expected maximum force that an earthquake will deliver to a building. Since this force is usually too large to make design practical, you design your vertical bracing system to yield at a certain force that is a percentage less than Ve*.6. (the R factor). If you design a system with R=2, you are basically saying that you want your braces to yield at 50% of the elastic earthquake load. Yielding means stretching with permanent deformation. Why do you want your braces to yield? So that you can limit the force on the other components of the building such as the footings and the roof diaphragm.
Keep in mind, however, that the code does allow the use of plate braces, but most of the time contractors have a hard time getting them tight. Check it out next time you go to the site. You will find one brace is bowed while the other is tight. That's because the building does a little shifting after it is constructed. I usually tell them to tighten the bowed brace in my field reports.
Regarding your problem with the building department official, no, I have not had that problem. I would have fought big time with this official. It is not necessary to meet the recommended slenderness ratio of l/300 for tension only braces, and worse, he has also potentially screwed up your earthquake design by forcing you to overstrengthen the braces. This guy should not be reviewing structural drawings.
Cheers!
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You slipped in your response to Cottageguy while I was typing mine. You are correct in saying that you do want the braces to yield to limit the force. However, for tension only braces, after they yield during the first cycle, (and yield further after successive cycles), there is an associated impact loading on the braces during load reversals because there is nothing restraining the building until the building deflects to the point where the tension brace tightens up again. If you look at the hysteresis loops for a tension only brace, you will see that they are very poor. As a matter of fact, tension only braces are prohibited in many parts of North America where high seismic activity is expected, according to Michel Bruneau, the author of the book that I have previously mentioned.
This is also why the CSA S16 further penalizes tension only braces by adding a load factor of 1.1 to the earthquake force.
I've been told by the experts that my understanding of this topic is excellent. So why can't I figure out how to utilize an R factor greater than 1 or 2? Help!
Cheers!
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My additional trouble with the requirements:
1) Why do we need a U (=0.6) factor? Why can't Ve be implicitly calibrated?
2) Why do we not have more input from our Mech. eng friends regarding the design of inexpensive dampers (such as Friction(Pall et al) instead of relying on this somewhat violent concept of yielding and buckling braces?
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You seem to be thinking along the same lines as myself regarding different types of systems. I thought about a friction type connection, however, I think the reason why friction type slip connections are not being talked about is because there is about a 25% drop between static friction and kinetic friction. It did seem to me, however, that it still might be the way to go. I have talked to some mechanical engineers about load limiting devices, and they started talking about pressurized fluids. Ideally, what we want is something that has very little deformation up to a certain maximum load, and then displaces under a constant load. It can't be a spring because force in a spring constantly increase with deformation. Also, deformations will probably be too much. Let's design one of these dampers. Maybe we'll get rich!
Cheers!