Community Opinion on Vendor Anchorage Load Data Expectations
Community Opinion on Vendor Anchorage Load Data Expectations
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We have a D-B contract with a large multinational consultant and process equipment vendor.
We have to provide the foundation design for their process equipment on the barge already.
We asked them for environmental load data they used, equipment loads and anchorage results,
you know, just to make sure they did all the 7-10 load combinations for wind and seismic.
They are demanding an additional fee to develop that information for our foundation design.
And because they're a large multinational, they want an OPEN END P.O. to develop the loads.
Is that normal? In 30 years I've never had a vendor demand more money for anchorage loads.
This is a package process unit, all the consultant is doing is pipe runs and connections.
The vendor should have this pre-calc'd. Vendors give the loads, we design the foundations.
Or did Earth pass thru an alternate dimension after the last solar X-burst, and I'm wrong? ; )
We have to provide the foundation design for their process equipment on the barge already.
We asked them for environmental load data they used, equipment loads and anchorage results,
you know, just to make sure they did all the 7-10 load combinations for wind and seismic.
They are demanding an additional fee to develop that information for our foundation design.
And because they're a large multinational, they want an OPEN END P.O. to develop the loads.
Is that normal? In 30 years I've never had a vendor demand more money for anchorage loads.
This is a package process unit, all the consultant is doing is pipe runs and connections.
The vendor should have this pre-calc'd. Vendors give the loads, we design the foundations.
Or did Earth pass thru an alternate dimension after the last solar X-burst, and I'm wrong? ; )






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This is no different than a PEMB manufacturer providing reactions for foundation design.
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These days, everyone is trying to find ways to add fees and push any responsibilities and duties off on the next guy. And also, with the first few levels (people) you talk to, remember that all people eventually rise to their level of incompetence. And, since they don’t know how to answer your question, they give you a bunch of b.s. If you are one of their subs. they should make some effort to be helpful, and in that respect, try to find someone there who can be your go-to guy on the job. Alternatively, you did sign a D-B contract, right?
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For example, you don't expect a valve supplier to develop seismic loads for a valve they're shipping out.
On a custom piece of equipment, especially one that requires anchorage, you would expect that to be furnished.
If you have local regulations that prohibit them from furnishing that information, that may be the issue. IE, if they're not licensed to do engineering in that jurisdiction.
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Michael.
"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved." ~ Tim Minchin
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