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Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

(OP)
Which CS for welded chamber for containment of superheated steam design temp 25 bar at +/- 350 centigrade. Of consideration is pressure cycling and corrosion.

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

Pipe - SA-106B
Plate - SA-515 GR70
Forgings - SA-105
Fittings - SA-234 WPB or WPC

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

Probably similar to an ASME SA 517 Grade 70 carbon steel plate material.

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

Correction; SA 515 not SA 517 Grade 70.

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

(OP)
Thanks Stanweld
I am mostly interested in plate and I also found out 515 Gr. 70 is good for this temperature due to coarse grain structure. Are there other plate grades to consider as 515 gr. 70 is not so available in stock locally.
Further, what's involved in creep analysis to check if the material is within the creep allowances if that makes any sense?
thks

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

Fully "killed" SA-285C (fire box quality) or other lower strenth grades of SA-515.

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

If you want a listing of suitable plate materials for power boiler construction, I would recommend you review PG-6 of ASME B&PV Code, Section I. By the listing of suitable materials in Section I, creep analysis is not required because of design by rules approach rather than design by analysis.

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

(OP)
If selecting A515 70, would post weld heat treatment be detrimental in as far as the original grain structure is intended to remain "coarse"? Would PWHT produce a fine grain structure and hence nullify the benefit of using this grade as opposed to a fine grade as A516 gr.70?

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

No, PWHT would have no effect on grain structure for the SA 515 material. Why? PWHT is typically performed below the lower transformation temperature, and as such, has no impact on grain growth. What will alter coarse grain to fine grain for the SA 515 steel is the welding process - GTAW versus SMAW or SAW.

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

(OP)
Just one further point for clarification - If I use the ASME BPVC Section II Allowable stress limits, is it true to say that the design would be compliant for 0.1% creep in 100 000 hours, or in 11.4 years the maximum creep if the stress is at the maximum of the allowables would be 0.1%? Or is there more to it than that?

RE: Which carbon steel for superheated steam application

The allowable stresses in the time dependent regime for ASME Section II, Part D, Tables 1A and 1B are governed by the lower of 0.67 x the average stress to cause stress rupture in 100,000 hrs or the stress to cause creep deformation of 0.01%/1,000 hrs.

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