Smoke Control Panel without UL or any other NRTL listing?
Smoke Control Panel without UL or any other NRTL listing?
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A UL 508a panel shop has been assigned to build a smoke control panel. They can't stick a 508a UL label on it, that is prohibited. UL 864, category code UUKL is what applies to smoke control panels. No panel shop can do UL 864 stuff, that is a standard that must be certified by submitting samples to UL and having extensive testing done.
Questions:
1) If the contractor for whom the panel is to be built gives a written waiver of responsibility for the non-label issue, would you build an unlabeled smoke panel?
2) If the local AHJ gives a written OK for the unlabeled smoke panel, would you build it?
Questions:
1) If the contractor for whom the panel is to be built gives a written waiver of responsibility for the non-label issue, would you build an unlabeled smoke panel?
2) If the local AHJ gives a written OK for the unlabeled smoke panel, would you build it?
Best to you,
Goober Dave
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RE: Smoke Control Panel without UL or any other NRTL listing?
RE: Smoke Control Panel without UL or any other NRTL listing?
I couldn't find anything in there either, but NFPA 92 is being enforced:
6.4 Smoke Control Systems
6.4.1 Control systems shall be listed in accordance with ANSI/UL 864, Standard for Control Units and Accessories for Fire Alarm Systems, category UUKL, for their intended purpose.
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Goober Dave
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RE: Smoke Control Panel without UL or any other NRTL listing?
I can't offer much more because my jurisdiction doesn't adopt NFPA 92. We have over 100 high-rise buildings and most have some active smoke control systems.
Given the fact that even with a prescriptive design that smoke control systems are engineered, the jurisdiction should understand the panel is nothing more than a control component for a system that will activate and respond before the FD is dispatched.
Is this a high-rise or a large Group A occupancy?
RE: Smoke Control Panel without UL or any other NRTL listing?
The building is this thing: http://www.victorianweb.org/art/architecture/iron/...
Sort of an ancient covered shopping mall that's being turned into apartments called "micro-lofts." It's three stories high.
I'm going to go ahead and ask the fire marshal. But our company's attorneys will have the final say-so...
Best to you,
Goober Dave
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RE: Smoke Control Panel without UL or any other NRTL listing?
RE: Smoke Control Panel without UL or any other NRTL listing?
Thanks tons for your input!
Best to you,
Goober Dave
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