The new title block freak
The new title block freak
(OP)
Hi,
I decided to write about this argument, because I want to share my experience and test to all NX users, so my time spent to test can useful to all NX user that they have the idea to try to switch from pattern to the NX8 title block.
1) Change from one format to other, from A3 format to A2 format for example, the title block stay in the previous place, so you have to activate the layer 256, edit the title block position, deactivate the layer 256 and return to draft...interesting work-flow for an hight-end CAD package.
I would like to know the NX programmer that had thought this procedure.
NX8.5 has the same behavior, so the problem is present from two years.
2) NX doesn't support vertical format. The ISO 216 is bed interpreted, then the vertical A4 format, used in all Europa, it's considered as custom format.
So, if I create an A4 vertical format and add to the .pax file with Tools->Drawing format->Mark as template and I switch from an A3 to the A4 vertical, NX create always an horizontal A4.
3) It's not possible to utilize the new title block if the file was born with 'pattern'. File with pattern must stay with pattern.
4) The new title block doesn't support the weight attribute present in the part.
You can link in the new title block to all attributes, but not material attribute like weight, surface, volume.
5) Pattern modification create an update, if set in the customer default, to all historical draftings, so if you change the logo company or add an new row in the pattern to support some new informations, all drawing made in the company life, can take advantage of this behavior.
The new title block no.
6) The creation of the new title block is absolutely new and strange.
You can know the part attribute, but you can use directly. You must to add a dummy file with all attribute present in the title block and import each attribute singly to create a new Ref.
Try to create the title block and you will discover a strange manner to create title block, respect before and respect to all CAD package present in the world.
Good luck and stay with pattern to avoid stress and headache.
I decided to write about this argument, because I want to share my experience and test to all NX users, so my time spent to test can useful to all NX user that they have the idea to try to switch from pattern to the NX8 title block.
1) Change from one format to other, from A3 format to A2 format for example, the title block stay in the previous place, so you have to activate the layer 256, edit the title block position, deactivate the layer 256 and return to draft...interesting work-flow for an hight-end CAD package.
I would like to know the NX programmer that had thought this procedure.
NX8.5 has the same behavior, so the problem is present from two years.
2) NX doesn't support vertical format. The ISO 216 is bed interpreted, then the vertical A4 format, used in all Europa, it's considered as custom format.
So, if I create an A4 vertical format and add to the .pax file with Tools->Drawing format->Mark as template and I switch from an A3 to the A4 vertical, NX create always an horizontal A4.
3) It's not possible to utilize the new title block if the file was born with 'pattern'. File with pattern must stay with pattern.
4) The new title block doesn't support the weight attribute present in the part.
You can link in the new title block to all attributes, but not material attribute like weight, surface, volume.
5) Pattern modification create an update, if set in the customer default, to all historical draftings, so if you change the logo company or add an new row in the pattern to support some new informations, all drawing made in the company life, can take advantage of this behavior.
The new title block no.
6) The creation of the new title block is absolutely new and strange.
You can know the part attribute, but you can use directly. You must to add a dummy file with all attribute present in the title block and import each attribute singly to create a new Ref.
Try to create the title block and you will discover a strange manner to create title block, respect before and respect to all CAD package present in the world.
Good luck and stay with pattern to avoid stress and headache.
Thank you...
Using NX 8 and TC9.1





RE: The new title block freak
that exactly my experience with the new tileblock,
have you reworked the new titleblock and the pain starts again -> the formating of each cell.
I can not understand that the really good technic of the pattern is stopped development in NX1.
We have lost some functionality in pattern ( font adjustment in nx5). There is no new functionalty will replace the pattern functionality.
Think about changing the company logo in the titleblock - with pattern in seconds without opening old data.
Creating a pattern drawing sheet is done in an hour and it works in ??
I hope Dave will read it
RE: The new title block freak
But I tried to edit name "SIEMENS" but its not because its locked. Even I tried to unlock it , In NX7.5 If I turn on Layer 255 I can edit it.
Is there anyway?
Thanks
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Thanks
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John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: The new title block freak
You can't do a simple edit to titleblock once it has been defined. The idea is to not use the Siemens ones, but either create your own from scratch or use them as a basis to make your own.
In the attached video, I show how you can edit the Siemens one to remove the Siemens logo. While you have the tables removed from the titleblock you can then edit in your changes, then add the tables back to the titleblock.
If you are using an image, you have too make sure the size is correct for the size of the cell it is to appear in.
Anthony Galante

Technical Resource Coordinator
NX5.0.6, NX6.0.5, NX7.5.0-> NX7.5.5 & NX8.0.0 -> NX8.0.3.4, NX8.5.0.23
RE: The new title block freak
This stuff is getting waaaaaaay too complicated. Nice job, Drafting developers at Siemens.
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To the Toolmaker, your nice little cartoon drawing of your glass looks cool, but your solid model sucks. Do you want me to fix it, or are you going to take all week to get it back to me so I can get some work done?
RE: The new title block freak
I'm disappointed about how two company (Solid Edge and NX), managed by the same multinational (Siemens), that share the same platform (Parasolid and D-Cubed), can develop the same solution (Sheet Metal, Synchronous Technology, Drafting, Assembly, etc..) in very different manner.
Sheet Metal in Solid Edge is better then NX.
NX has implanted Solid Edge sheet metal solution, stating to NX4, but after developed separately.
SE support ST in sheet metal, NX no.
Solid Edge support ST and parametric in the same file, NX no.
Solid Edge drafting is a powerful...ask to SE users that have switched to NX.
Solid Edge assembly tool and in this case assembly constraints, haven't the power of Solid Edge.
So, why this two programmer groups doesn't talk and share they solutions between their ?
Catia and SolidWorks share some their solutions.
Fiat and Chrysler are doing.
Fiat and Volvo has done.
Boing and Airbus has done.
Sometime I think that executives in NX lives in a different world.
Thank you...
Using NX 8 and TC9.1
RE: The new title block freak
I think you may have some typos here. I suspect it should have read...
...NX support ST and parametric in the same file, Solid Edge no.
Solid Edge drafting is powerful...ask SE users that have switched to NX.
Solid Edge assembly tool and in this case assembly constraints, haven't the power of NX...
...correct?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: The new title block freak
what I wrote is correct.
I don't know how many years you have, but I started to project with drawing board.
In the '90 I started with the 2D and 1997 with the 3D.
I used SolidWorks, Solid Edge, Pro-E and in the last 5 years NX.
I wrote used, not heard.
I don't think you are able to use Solid Edge although you are part of Siemens PLM.
The good thing, I hope, you are part of the team that port some useful Catia feature in NX, after the joint-venture between Fiat and Chrysler.
Reading what I wrote, I intend SE support Ordered and Synchronous feature in the same file.
Thank you...
Using NX 8 and TC9.1
RE: The new title block freak
I changed from one format to other, but after I don't succeed to reattach the title block to the lower/right of the border.
Only screen position is available. where am I wrong ?
TIA
Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com
RE: The new title block freak
I do have to say I'm doing my hardest to learn the NX drafting package so far it just makes my head tired.
RE: The new title block freak
1. In the graphic window, right-click the title block and select Style.
2. In the Annotation Style dialog box, make sure Alignment Position is set to Bottom Right.
3. Click OK to save the style setting and close the dialog box.
4. Right-click the title block again and select Origin.
5. In the Origin Tool dialog box, click Point Constructor
6. Select the point on the drawing sheet to which you want to locate the title block.
7. Click OK in the Origin Tool dialog box to reposition the title block.
RE: The new title block freak
Having used UG for 15 years before switching to Pro/E due to company requirements, UG was by far the easier drafting package to use. Not just my word, but all 35 users we retrained in Wildfire.
PTC did not even have a drafting module when Pro/E was introduced, They depended on you exporting views and importing them into AutoCAd for your drafting.
While I haven't been on NX since NX4/6 3 years ago, I don't think Siemens has made their drafting packing worse than the lates Creo2 release with its ribbon toolbars.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
RE: The new title block freak
Thanks a lot. It was too simple.
In fact I had not seen that the last icon of the first line was available :(.
I hate those old menus
Regards
Didier Psaltopoulos
http://www.psi-cad.com
RE: The new title block freak
the new title block is on layer 256 by default and as suggested by Siemens via his new template, so you have to add to your six steps, other four steps to activate layer 256 and deactivate after finish to reposition the title block.
This workflow must be done each time you change the format of your drawing.
So if you change two time, it's very offensive to our intelligence.
This was reported by me on NX8 beta, on NX8.5 beta...two years with this awesome title block implementation.
I hope that NX9 will resolve this bad behavior.
For me it's too early to substitute pattern with title block.
Thank you...
Using NX 8 and TC9.1