30" dia oil pipeline derating
30" dia oil pipeline derating
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Hi all,
we are in the process to derate the 30" API 5L B dia oil pipeline (158km), wall thickness is 80% gone due corrosion and this line was installed some 40 years back.
as per barlow's equation MAWP is coming 112 psi,my question is, can i further derate the line as operation manager requested to derate untill line is composite repaired.I don't have copy of B31.4 for reference.
thanks
10815L
we are in the process to derate the 30" API 5L B dia oil pipeline (158km), wall thickness is 80% gone due corrosion and this line was installed some 40 years back.
as per barlow's equation MAWP is coming 112 psi,my question is, can i further derate the line as operation manager requested to derate untill line is composite repaired.I don't have copy of B31.4 for reference.
thanks
10815L





RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
"(c) If a piping system is derated to a lower operating
pressure in lieu of repair or replacement, the new maximum
steady state operating pressure shall be determined
in accordance with para. 451.7."
my 2006 version of B31.4 does not have paragraph 451.7, but I think the correct reference is 451.6 Pipeline Integrity Assessments and Repairs.
Paragraph 451.6 is too many pages to incorporate in this posting.
hope this helps.
-pmover
RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
I assume you solved Barlow's formula for pressure and put SMYS and the actual wall thickness (no future corrosion allowance) in to get the 112 psig (I get 122 psig using 20% of 0.375 in, but I assume that the wall thickness isn't exactly 20%). Most companies have a maximum ratio of calculated stress to SMYS, and the number is often around 20%, so if you put that number (say 20% of SMYS, which I'll assume is 42,000 psi) and a 2/64 corrosion allowance I get a new MAWP of 25 psig.
For this kind of problem the answer really doesn't matter (a wide range of answers are all pretty much supportable), the important thing is that you pick a method, document it, and follow it. If you use 100% of SMYS and no corrosion allowance you should put steps in place to never go above your 112 psig (ESD, PSV, pump kills, etc). Then if the pipe does fail you have an Engineering basis for having selected the wrong MAWP ("wrong" being defined as a pressure where the pipe failed anyway).
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RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
Describes one method for determining the remaining strength of corroded pipelines.
https://law.resource.org/pub/us/cfr/ibr/002/asme.b...
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RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
Here is correct information, piping class is API5L X52 and MAWP with out Corrosion allowance is 137 PSIG, MAWP method is given in API 579.
C/A 2/64 i can't understand it because menon does not discuss about it, can you please explain bit more.
Thanks
10815L
RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
For example, it sounds like you've surveyed it pretty closely, or you would not be pulling it out of service, but how much margin do you "need" in today's enviro-regulatory-attitude to risk a break and lost oil? Is there a significant probability some part of the pipe might be pitted twice as deep as the "normal" parts you have measured?
As pointed out above, your failure point will be at the place where current corrosion is high enough, and new local stresses high enough, that otherwise sound metal around the initial failure also rupture.
RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
our inspection department used smart piging for thickness servey and they have give these values, the line is runing through desert area in north african country.
I want your input for fitness of this line because right now no plan to replace it. may be infutre if this line brust three / four points and lost tons of oil then may think to replace it.
Thanks
10815L
RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
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RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating
RE: 30" dia oil pipeline derating