submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
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I have a situation where we have trusses being fabricated in a different state (that doesn't recognize the difference between a SE and a PE) so when I received the calcs they are sealed by a PE in the state where they are fabricated. Where the project is located I am the SE of record. I am trying to figure out if it is suffice to accept the calcs from a PE in another state since the trusses are manufactured in that state. Any thoughts and/or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.






RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
Mike Lambert
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
That being said, the engineer who stamped the truss design documents must be licensed in the state of the project. Otherwise, someone licewnsed in that state will have to assume the responsibility, but that gets into a real sticky area - the old "direct siupervision" clause.
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
http://mmcengineering.tripod.com
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
As the structural EOR, the design of the trusses will ultimately fall within your "responsibility". If submittal of the calculations to other officials is required, then they probably have requirements.
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RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
http://mmcengineering.tripod.com
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
"What if you don't know what state?" Valid question. I would say the solution is to find out what state/city/county, etc, particularly if professional engineering is involved as part of the production of the product. The laws of physics don't change across state lines, but the laws governing engineering do.
That reminds me of the recent case of the truck driver hauling a truck load of ammunition that wandered into Mexico by mistake. He didn't know what country he was in, but man, he sure should have found out first.
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
So much paperwork and so little engineering these days.
ZCP
www.phoenix-engineer.com
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
http://mmcengineering.tripod.com
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
In addition, it is too easy to get in trouble when you don't understand local conditions. I work for a large firm with multiple state registrations- we go through extensive continuing education to keep up with Florida wind provisions, California seismic, Texas expansive soils, Midwest frost depth issues, Alaska permafrost... It would be scary if people just had a national license, and didn't have the additional knowledge/resources to go with it. I'm not saying that anyone would be malicious- but ignorance is just as dangerous.
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ALSO - Most states and a couple of hundred bucks and you ARE licensed!!! So why not just do it nationally??? I am registeredd in 42 or 43 states ALL by reciprocity or comity..... Just dollars and maybe an ethics test!!!
So let me pay the $5,000 or $6,000 a year - the states divide it and my paperwork goes to about zero!!
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE
RE: submittal calcs stamped by a PE vs. SE