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we are doing engineering for greed of job money or for self satisfaction??
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RE: we are doing engineering for greed
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What am I supposed to do? Donate my time to some other greedy jerk?
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Damned auto-correct strikes again!
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In the end, as I have posted in other threads, the job is what I do to make money for survival, recreation, and saving up for retirement. Greed doesn't really play a big role, although I do try to get the highest fees I can to increase my velocity toward retirement.
Best to you,
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Adityabharadwaj, you did not state your preference.I can see from your background you are new to ET , please watch and learn .
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Was this thread created to advance the industry or was it merely self-entertainment?
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Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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Your question is a choice of two to explain why i do engineering. It has taken most over 4 years to get to a point were they are doing engineering and you want us to sun it up as a choice of two.
http://www.nceng.com.au/
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
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Incidentally here are some phrases you might like to research "false dichotomy", "average wage of British engineer" and of course "stupid question".
Cheers
Greg Locock
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Thought twice: They pay me to pursue my hobbies!!!
This question is meaningless; we are not in the utopian society where some unpaid or uncompensated machinery does all the drudgery and we lounge around idly pursuing our every whim. We have to work for a living, unless we were born with that silver spoon. Some of us get lucky and get paid to do things that we like, while others get paid to do things they don't like, and everyone is in-between.
TTFN
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religion doesn't pay my food, home, taxes, ...
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Good luck,
Latexman
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It could be. It's hard to say for sure with this one in only 1-2 days time. But, if it is, I enjoy a good game of "whack a troll" now and then.
Good luck,
Latexman
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It's not the engineer who appears motivated by greed in large part. If we were, we wouldn't donate time to answer engineering questions for free on this engineering board. When the answer is "hire someone," then it's because the issue is more complex than can be answered by anonymous strangers knowing only part of the problem and frustrated by a commuication barrier (be it language or lack of information.)
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TTFN
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- Steve
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There are aspects of being an engineer that I find enjoyable, but if I won the lottery tonight I would probably not be showing up for work in the morning. I could find self satisfaction from plenty of activites that are not engineering.
There are times when I wish I was more passionate about what I do. Like a poster said in another thread something about putting in 80 hour work weeks and still wanting more. I have never known anything close tothat level of job satisfaction. Engineering is better than slinging hamburgers for a living, but work still sucks.
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I thought twice about it.
Chris
SolidWorks 11
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Our "greed" is just pocket change in the penny jar to them.
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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Teachers-the good ones don't teach just because they get summers off either. It's a great perk to make up/compensate for the lower pay-but the good ones don't teach for that reason.
In my opinion Engineers should be more highly compensated than lawyers. But, lawyers usually litigate and win millions, or keep their employers out of litigation thereby saving millions-which justifies their high salary to the business world.
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So do hookers.
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Regards,
Mike
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In my opinion, most of the responders here have misunderstood what "greed" means. Expecting to be fairly compensated for your services is not greed. Greed is "the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort." I would add it would be using your engineering skills in a manner that harmed others to your, or your company's, gratification. While I'm sure there is a small minority that might "fit that bill," that's not the typical engineering profile. More typical is the engineer who wonders why he isn't being compensated as well as everyone else. (How many posts have been seen on this forum on that subject versus this singular one on greedy engineers?)
Greedy are the folks that come here as leechers ... only asking questions, expecting immediate responses even though they only give partial information, and going away in a huff when their problem isn't solved for them, until the next time they want help.
Not greedy are the folks who spend time trying to help others with their problems, even if the original poster isn't completely satisfied with the results. Those folks are donating time and engineering skills expecting nothing more than maybe an occasional thanks or a purple star.
The site has far more of the second than the first. That's why it has the reputation that it does. If engineers were "greedy," then the site wouldn't exist, because no one would ever find an answer on it. You've seen sites like that -- questions get posted, but never answered. Here, the answers come quick. They're accurate, they're helpful. Maybe the people on here are not representative of the typical engineer, but I don't think that's the case.
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Ya nailed it, man.
JJ
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I'm not trying to throw a stone in your direction, just elaborating my point of view.
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- Steve
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I really have been thinking more than twice. But answering that question is easy: I am a prostitute - I get paid for my services. And I am also a happy prostitute that finds great pleasure in what I do. I also have a great relationship with my clientele.
Add to that that I love the tools I use and the freedom I have as an independent engineer. And there is no souteneur to pay. Exept the State.
Gunnar Englund
www.gke.org
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I really wanted to be a baseball player but couldn't hit the high hard stuff. Maybe you should discuss greed in professional sports instead...owners and players.
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It's a nice paycheck, too. I am enamored with the security of having a roof over my head, food in the pantry, a few toys. Is having those things 'greedy'?
Is making sure that my employer has the means to move huge amounts of natural gas through a few thousand miles of pipe to provide lighting and heat and a thousand industrial processes a selfish act?
I'm thinking a little quid pro quo here. Civilization does not happen by magic, unless it's "One man's magic is another man's engineering".
old field guy
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It is an awfully terrible way to get rich.
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There are more jobs that are even worse ways to get rich, digging ditches, for example...
And there are those who are exceeding frugal and managed to save $500k and up on salaries that are noticeably smaller than that of engineers. Most of us just choose not to be reasonably well off.
TTFN
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Absolutely!!!
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Maybe it's a Canadian thing...certainly no disrespect intended.
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You see...
I have never dunked a basketball.
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http://www.nceng.com.au/
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
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If it didnt grow it was developed by an engineer. Look around you. I am of two minds what made things "grow" in the first place but I do know engineers are the "can do" people. Unlike bankers, lawyers, accountants, doctors etc who are historians for they only do anything when something has occurred. Then there are the dreamers: The clergy, scientists, philosophers, environmentalists, pollies who throw up ideas and wait for engineers to come along and do something about it.
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Sure, look at the customers they need to put up with.
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Please send a money order for $535.00 and I will submit my answer.
Thank you,
Charlie
www.facsco.com
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But greed? Engineers?
Oh purrleease.
Most of us don't have the time or the inclination to be greedy.
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Never regret it. It was tough but well worth it.
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French revolution, intellectuals are being rounded up & executed. A priest, philosopher & engineer are lined up at the guillotine.
Priest says he wishes to spend his last moments looking up at heaven, so executioner puts him on his back, pulls the rope, nothing happens. Priest proclaims it a miracle, they let him go.
Philosopher is up, wants to see the people, executioner puts him on his belly, pulls the rope, nothing happens. "Will of the people" says the executioner, lets him go.
Engineer is curious, how's a guillotine work? Executioner puts him on his back, pulls the rope, nothing happens.
Engineer says "Oh! I think I see the problem!"
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