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Beam with End-Plates Too Short

Beam with End-Plates Too Short

Beam with End-Plates Too Short

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We have a large beam with end plates attached at each end that is too short by about 1/2". What is a common solution to this type of problem?
We are concerned about the bending load on the bolts. We are thinking about installing longer high strength bolts (longer bolts to keep the threads out of the shear plane) along with providing vertical shims. Will the shims ensure that there is no bending in the bolts? The beam and the columns can't be moved.

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

I would be tempted to weld a new 1/2" plate (with holes to match) onto the original plate and go from there.

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

I dont see an issue with 1/4" shim on each end.

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

With a 1/2" shim on one end, you'd have to reduce the shear capacity of the bolts. With a 1/4" shim on each end, you don't have to reduce the bolt's capacity. I second Toad's suggestion.

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

Agree with the 1/4" shim each end. See AISC Specification Section J5 on fillers for more info on the shear reduction applicable if filler greater than 1/4".

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

But if you fully weld the 1/2" plate to the one end, it isn't a filler anymore...just an extension of the end plate - as though you had a thicker end plate so J5 filler provisions wouldn't even apply correct?

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

JAE, that's right.

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

You may find you need half of that 1/2" just to install the girder!

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

Two 1/4" shims is likely less costly that field welding a 1/2" shim...

Dik

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

Another vote for 1/4" shims at each end.

If a 1/2 fill is added to the endplate, then the plate must be welded to the endplate adequately to develop it's proportion of load.

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RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

Looks like your total length tolerance is about 1/16", 1/32" at each end. Does the 1/2" include this figure or not? If it does, you may need to go to 3/16" or 7/32" end plates.

Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
http://mmcengineering.tripod.com

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

I'd go 1/4" at one end, and 2 @ 1/16" and 1 @ 1/8" finger shims at the other. I wouldn't put plates at both ends in the original design unless it was going between columns before they were set.

Michael.
Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.

RE: Beam with End-Plates Too Short

I'd be looking at 1/4" for both and use a swing press to install the second if necessary...

Dik

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