Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
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I have 4 foot carbon steel pipe in the vertical direction. The top of the pipe is in a T joint that is welded down. The bottom of the pipe is connected to a 90 degree elbow to a 6 inch pipe in the horizontal pipe. The horizontal pipe is connected to a cast bronze flange, and is then connected to a 6 inch pipe to a boiler. The schematic can be seen by this picture 
I am suppose to calculate the the stresses applied on this flange, and the calculations that I did are shown on the attachment. I was told that I did the calculations wrong because I chose the wrong deflections. Is there another way that I am supposed to calculate the stress applied on that flange?

I am suppose to calculate the the stresses applied on this flange, and the calculations that I did are shown on the attachment. I was told that I did the calculations wrong because I chose the wrong deflections. Is there another way that I am supposed to calculate the stress applied on that flange?





RE: Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
RE: Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
You have calculated the thermal stress, as if each piece was separate from the other and each was fully restrained in the axial direction. You have not considered that pipe which is free to expand would have no stress, or that pipe which is partially restrained would not have that full level of stress. In fact, the vertical pipe is partially restrained by the horizontal pipe and the horizontal stress is partially restrained by the vertical pipe. Neither is fully restrained in the axial direction, since each partial restraint allows some movement of the other. The horizontal deflection of the vertical pipe, caused by the partial expansion of the horizontal pipe, creates a bending moment at the elbow, just as the vertical deflection of the horizontal pipe, caused by growth of the vertical pipe, in the same manner creates a moment at the same elbow, which both then are added together. In the end, you must find that the axial stresses will be less than the fully restrained stresses that you have calculated, some of the axial load in each pipe being converted into bending stress. Once you know the bending moment at the elbow, you can calculate the moments at opposite ends of the pipe. With that information, you can at last calculate what the stress must be at the flange joint.
The best way to do this by hand, or spreadsheet, is to use a method known as "moment distribution".
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RE: Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
RE: Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
Do you have a copy of B31.1? That approximate, but conservative, method is explained in the part describing the calculation of anchor and virtual anchor forces.
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RE: Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
RE: Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
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RE: Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
What if I used the cantilever method approach?
Vertical piping = 48 inches
horizontal piping = 6 inches
temperature difference = 180 - 70 = 110 F
alpha = 6.5E6 in/in F for carbon steel
delta_y = .0343 inches
delta_x = .00429 inches
Fx = 12*E*I*delta/L^3 = 12*29.5E6*(pi*(2.875^4 - 2.5^4)/64)*.00429/6^3 = 10097 lbs (from my understanding this force is applied in the vertical direction?)
Mx = 6*E*I*delta/L^2 = 6*29.5E6*(pi*(2.875^4 - 2.5^4)/64)*.00429/6^2 = 30293 lbs*in
Fy = 12*E*I*delta/L^3 = 12*29.5E6*(pi*(2.875^4 - 2.5^4)/64)*.0343/48^3 = 157lbs
Mx = 6*E*I*delta/L^2 = 6*29.5E6*(pi*(2.875^4 - 2.5^4)/64)*.0343/48^2 = 3784 lbs*inches
Can I do this? Now from here how do I get my stresses?
RE: Calculate the stress applied to a bronze flange from a expanding pipe
If the left end of the 6"+6" beam is fixed and the flange can rotate, then you should use 12", not 6".
If you are ignoring the left 6" and considering the flange as a fixed end, then your 6" length is correct.
The moments and forces on each end of the 48" length are equal value, but opposite in direction. Same for the 6" or 12", whatever you decide. If you decide that the flange is fixed, then you have the moment and lateral shear, Fx, but add the vertical load to the shear too.
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