microcontrollers in the classroom
microcontrollers in the classroom
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I am a teacher of electronics at a community college and I am looking for a microcontroller to use as the heart of our program. I have looked at Intel, Motorola, and the PIC so far. In your opinions, which would make the best platform.
Thomas56
Thomas56





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has simpler addressing than the 8051-s but less instructions than the ?86 .
<nbucska@pcperipherals.com>
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What is EVM ? Do you know what kind of free software do they
have ?
<nbucska@pcperipherals.com>
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nbucska, an EVM is an EValuation Module. It allows you to develop code, compile that code on your PC and download it to the EVM via serial communications. You can then add real world "stuff" around the EVM to test your concepts.
As to what software, what are you looking for? They have everything you need to compile your code and load it on the micro.
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While what you say is good advice, how many companies do you know of today who are starting new designs using either of these 2 micros? And, can you use ANSI C to program either of these? No! Because neither of them have a hardware stack.
Just my $0.02 worth.
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Keep in mind this is for a community college electronics class. The students learning this stuff probably don't need more than the basics, such as internal structure, basics of assembly language programming, typical fetch-execute cycle, interfacing with memory and I/O, etc. Once the basics of one microcontroller are learned, it's not too difficult to learn others.
Besides, you never know where these are going to pop up. I work as a facilities controls engineer and see old microcontrollers all the time in legacy equipment that I am responsible for and my technicians have to maintain.
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You can get several C compilers for both the 68HC11 and
the 8051 and derivatives.
A lot of companies are using them even for new design.
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<nbucska@pcperipherals.com>
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Linux will eventually rule.
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p.s. anyone know how to get ahold of the intel 4004 chip my old prof still wants one to complete his collection.
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I'm not a PIC salesperson ;), but it may be worth checking them out.
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Also, FYI carnage, the 8085 was not "a three chip set that was upgraded and combined into one package to become the 8086". It was an 8-bit processor (with a nice, simple instruction set and simple memory structure). The 8086 was a completely different architecture, base on a different 16 bit instruction set that was not compatible with the 8085.
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For what its worth, as an educator I chose the 8-bit PIC family I received excellent support from Microchip and with only 35 instructions to learn it was easy to teach. PIC microcontrollers are also well supported in hobby magazines and there are plenty of resources for students to help themselves.
Cheers,
G
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Rockjoint
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Check these sites out :
Nice AVR course - lots of project info
http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/ee476/
Where they all come from ...
http://www.atmel.com
Premier support site
http://www.avrfreaks.net
Dean.
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