Smart questions
Smart answers
Smart people
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Member Login

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips now!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

Join Eng-Tips
*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

LINK TO THIS FORUM!

Add Stickiness To Your Site By Linking To This Professionally Managed Technical Forum.
Just copy and paste the
code below into your site.

Partner With Us!

"Best Of Breed" Forums Add Stickiness To Your Site
Partner Button
(Download This Button Today!)

Feedback

"...I am very impressed with the site and have already recommended it to one of my associates. I was truly impressed with the quickness in which someone actually responded to my question..."

Geography

Where in the world do Eng-Tips members come from?
jerzy (Mechanical)
28 Jun 12 22:16
I have been doing Finite Element Analyses of a part and have been trying to find creep information for LLDPE. My client has already asked his supplier and got no help. (In fact supplier said "there is no change with time in the modulus") Temperature will not be elevated and I'm looking for 5 to 10 year creep modulus values. As an estimate I have been using 1/3 of the short term datasheet modulus value.

Can anybody steer me to some data?

Thanks

Jerzy
patprimmer (Publican)
28 Jun 12 22:38
Change raw material suppliers ton someone who is reputable and competent.
Borealis springs to mind

http://www.borealisgroup.com/about/production-site...

Regards
Pat
See FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies for tips on use of eng-tips by professional engineers &
http://eng-tips.com/market.cfm
for site rules

patprimmer (Publican)
28 Jun 12 22:39
Oh

And it will creep a lot.

Regards
Pat
See FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies for tips on use of eng-tips by professional engineers &
http://eng-tips.com/market.cfm
for site rules

jerzy (Mechanical)
28 Jun 12 22:48
Thank you Pat for the speedy reply. I should have mentioned that I'm looking for rotational molding grades. I checked your link, but
they seem to offer only film extrusion grades.

Thanks again for the reply.

Jerzy
patprimmer (Publican)
28 Jun 12 22:57
I thinkk you might find that creep data transfers accross a wide variety of grade. It is level of crystallinity (density) sensitive, but not molecular weight sensitive.

I am not really up to date on who now makes LLDPE. Maybe also Dow.

Rotational moulding grades are pretty much low MW grades with lots of heat stabiliser and no nucleating agents or mould release. They are injection moulding barefoot resin ground to a fine powder with heat stabiliser.

Regards
Pat
See FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies for tips on use of eng-tips by professional engineers &
http://eng-tips.com/market.cfm
for site rules

Demon3 (Materials)
29 Jun 12 11:59
A Google search for LLDPE creep data gives this link as hit 4

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=lld...

That paper gives some data.

Chris

Chris DeArmitt - PhD FRSC CChem
Plastic & Additives Webinars
Instant Downloads & Inexpensive
www.plastictraining.com

Helpful Member!  Demon3 (Materials)
29 Jun 12 12:01
This is the last hit on the first page of that search. Gives actual creep data for roto molding grades

http://www.qenos.com.au/internet/home.nsf/web/CTHS...

Chris DeArmitt - PhD FRSC CChem
Plastic & Additives Webinars
Instant Downloads & Inexpensive
www.plastictraining.com

jerzy (Mechanical)
29 Jun 12 13:33
Thank you Chris. I had seen the first article on film, but the Quenos link was new. It is exactly what I'm looking for, but requires password.

I don't buy resins, but I'll see if my client has dealt with the company.

Thank you again (and also Pat for his comments).

I sent you a star.

jerzy
jerzy (Mechanical)
29 Jun 12 13:35
Sorry Qenos----I mistakenly added a "u".

jerzy
Demon3 (Materials)
29 Jun 12 15:04
I checked before and the link Qenos Roto Grades Creep Data requires no password, it gives you an Excel file

Chris DeArmitt - PhD FRSC CChem
Plastic & Additives Webinars
Instant Downloads & Inexpensive
www.plastictraining.com

jerzy (Mechanical)
29 Jun 12 15:58
Hello Chris,
But the EXCEL sheet is password protected: it downloads OK but won't open without the password--on my machine it won't anyway.
My client is getting a password.
Thanks again
Jerzy

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!

Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close