engine question... chilled air intake?
engine question... chilled air intake?
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using either a chemical thats stays colder than ambient air (if such a thing readily available) or coiled copper tubing flowing compressed refridgerant all the way around the intake for increased hp? Just throwing this idea out been dreaming it up for a while now. Other sensors would need to be calibrated for this change of course but is this even possible? Turbos would love it if so.





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RE: engine question... chilled air intake?
but you'll be adding more energy chilling the air than you'll recover from the improved output. that's why it doesn't make sense to do this to a car, but it could make sense to do to a stationary engine (getting the chilling power from the electrical grid).
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And KENAT ya more or less but it only cools the air with passing air not "chilled" air. they have intercooler sprays either nitrous or another fluid I forget now but there only temporary boost of colder air. Essentially I am thinking of a worse idea of just using nitrous due to its cooling properties. OOPS!
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RE: engine question... chilled air intake?
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If you have to add a traditional refrigeration cycle it doesn't ever pay off. If you can tie on to "wasted" cooling capacity in a chilled water cycle then the economics can work, but they are generally marginal.
I've had a couple of scoping projects where we were going to dump engine heat (including a turbo after cooler) into an evaporation pond. The thermodynamics were impressive, the economics were very positive, but the culture of Oil & Gas wouldn't allow either project to move forward ("by God we've always cooled compressors with fin-fan coolers and that is the way it is going to be done on this project, the evaporation ponds are someone else's problem").
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However, it's been a while since I looked at much thermo stuff in any detail
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Alternatively google "TAS" and follow the links.
rwm
PS: Scotty, I take it that David isn't very familiar with the refrigeration plants of your former world.
rb1957, it isn't perpetual motion. The chiller plant is a parasitic load. It is just that the net gain in output is higher than the parasitic load.