Smart questions
Smart answers
Smart people
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Member Login

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips now!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

Join Eng-Tips
*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

LINK TO THIS FORUM!

Add Stickiness To Your Site By Linking To This Professionally Managed Technical Forum.
Just copy and paste the
code below into your site.

Partner With Us!

"Best Of Breed" Forums Add Stickiness To Your Site
Partner Button
(Download This Button Today!)

Feedback

"...I love the structure of the site. You start at the top, and drill down to what you want. Maybe I've been using Unix too long... :-) "

Geography

Where in the world do Eng-Tips members come from?
91873634542 (Mechanical)
3 Jun 12 23:51
Please advise me when should we use bolt torque wrench (torquing) and bolt tensioning ?
when we want to joint flange 26" #900, should we use bolt tensioner ?
thanks for advise

Regards
stanier (Mechanical)
4 Jun 12 3:25
A bolt torque is a very inaccurate method of determining the gasket loading. The friction in the bolt/nut threads depends upon bolt tolerance, lubrication and good luck.

For high pressure flanges I suggest you use a tensioner to get the correct gasket loading.

“The beautiful thing about learning is that no one can take it away from you.”
---B.B. Kinghttp://waterhammer.hopout.com.au/

Justanothereng (Mechanical)
26 Jun 12 2:53
Of course, both methods of tightening will eventualy get the job done. However, on large flanges such as this one, tensioning is advantageous not only because of the reason outlined above but also because it is a faster process. When tensioning, one is able to tighten at least 50% of the stud population at the same time. In some cases it's even possible to tighten 100% simultaneoulsy. This is important because it ensures consistent gasket compression and thus reduces the risk of damage before the joint is even pressurized.

Torquing, as implied above, can also be utilized. However, then one foregoes the previously-described benefits. Furthermore, in order to deal with the inherent innacuracies of any torque-tightening procedure of critical flanges, the bolt bolt stress MUST be verified after tightening. This is imperative since it will enable the operator to "tune" the applied torque at each fastener so that it applies the necessary clamp load. In so doing, one will usually find that it's necessary to apply a different torque to each fastener in oredr to ensure that they are all equally "tight".
MJCronin (Mechanical)
26 Jun 12 15:13
There are many benefits to bolt/stud tensioning instead of torquing.

Among these benefits are:

- Assurance of uniform bolt loading and gasket compression
- Quicker assembly, disassembly of the joint
- Safety, prevention of accidents
- Prevention of fastener damage

The disadvantages, as I see them are:

- Cost, training, maintenance of tensioning equipment
- Need for adequate thread length above the nut for device engagement

austsa (Mechanical)
29 Jun 12 22:02
IMO studs larger than 1.5", use tensioning (esp if you've a design pressure that's near the upper end of the flange pressure range). Studs 1.5" or smaller, torque is OK (if you know what you are doing).
tothepoint (Mechanical)
9 Jul 12 21:10
Conventional torque wrenches are limited to 250 ft-lb. Some larger torque wrenches will take you up to 600 ft-lb. In addition to the inaccuracies of torque, it's gets to be a safety risk pulling on wrenches to develop 600 ft-lb. I suggest using hydraulic torquing or tensioning at torques >250 ft-lb.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!

Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close