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PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

(OP)
Dear all,

I have a question about PED certification related to delivery of materials from example Asia to be used in pressure equipment were the PED is applicable.

Situation: We buy a complete machined forged tubesheet from an Asian company and use this in a heat exchanger were the PED is applicable. This company is certified according for PED by an Asian notified body.

Question: Shall this company be certified by an European notified body or is an Asian sufficient for PED certification?

If yes or no please explain the reason.
Thanks in advance,

Euroweld

 

RE: PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

I assume that you mean the certification of the quality system of the material manufacturer.  This certification must by carried out by a competent body established as a legal entity within the European Community,
see Guideline 7/16, 7/2: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/pressure-and-gas/files/ped/ped-guidelines_en.pdf
An Asian company may carry out this certification only if the are established on European territory.  Otherwise I would have strong doubts if this certificate is not a falsification like several others I saw.
But this quality system certification is needed only when the material manufacturer delivers the material with a 3.1 material certificate.  If the material is delivered with 3.2 certificate, a quality system certificate is not needed, see guideline 7/5, direct inspection route.
In any case, the pressure equipment manufacturer is the only legal responsible for a careful choice of his material supplier and of the correct certification.
 

RE: PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

(OP)
Ulyssess, thanks for your response. This is just what I was looking for. Now noticing that this asian NoBo is not included in the Nando list. I have seen that a lot of Asian companies have such certifications. Strange?!?! So when we buy materials including 3.2 certificate at a fabricator that does not has a OA system certified by a Nando Nobo this is still ok with PED requirements right?

Thanks,

RE: PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

Yes, a 3.2-certificate is sufficient.  In this case you have the choice either to carry out the inspection of the product yourself or to mandate a third party to carry out the inspection on your behalf.  For more details see EN 764-5.
A material manufacturer should know the regulation that only accredited bodies have the right to certify the QA-system and to carry out the specific assessment of materials required in the PED.  If a material manufacturer does not even know this, I would not trust in his QA-system at all.

RE: PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

(OP)
Ulyssess, is it not a little bit strange that purchaser can perform the inspection to obtain a 3.2 certificate? This manner is not that independent! Is this commonly used? I will investigate deeper to find out how and why these companies haves PED certifications by non Nando NoBo"s!

Thanks, Euroweld  

RE: PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

EN 10204 does not require an independent purchaser's authorised inspection representative.  It is commonly used, and some purchasers have a dedicated function for it.

Steve Jones
Materials & Corrosion Engineer

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/83b/b04
 

RE: PED 97/23/EC Certification for suppliers outside EEC

Euroweld, why a little bit strange?  The pressure vessel manufacturer is fully responsible for the choice of his suppliers and also for the inspection of the materials.  If he mandates this task to a company that does not carry out the work in a correct way and if the material does not fulfill the requirements, the pv manufacturer will have all problems later in his shop.

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