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21Pom (Mechanical)
14 Apr 12 6:16
Hi All,

Can anyone assist in solving this little problem.  I have a 20mm cube on which I have drawn 20mm circles on 3 sides, for this question, I hope to have the circles on all sides.

Where the corners of the cube meet is where I want to chamfer that point back to the circles, if you know what I mean.  I tried having the circles 1mm thicker than the cube and then using fillet, push back the sides of the cube, but that didn't work.

Got any ideas?

Best Rgds,
Dave R.
rollupswx (Mechanical)
14 Apr 12 8:33
You mention both fillet and chamfer which leaves it unclear to me what you are after (see attached).
Also - I noticed that none of your sketches are constrained - you might start here http://home.pct.edu/~jmather/skillsusa%20university.pdf
 
21Pom (Mechanical)
14 Apr 12 17:14
Hi rollupswx,

Sorry about the confusion, I tried both methods is what I meant.  I'll have a look at the link and get back to you.

Thanks for your quick response.

Beast Rgds,
Dave R
21Pom (Mechanical)
14 Apr 12 17:36
Hi Rollupswx,  I looked at the link you offered and I've seen that before in a slightly different form, it did not help me.

As for the file you sent, I cannot open it mainly because I forgot to inform you of my version of Inventor.  It is 2011 Professional and I beleive the file you are sending is 2012?

Best Rgds
Dave R
rollupswx (Mechanical)
14 Apr 12 21:12

Quote:

I looked at the link you offered and I've seen that before in a slightly different form, it did not help me.

If you can't figure out how to constrain simple sketches, you are correct - I can't help you.


Quote:

As for the file you sent, I cannot open it mainly because I forgot to inform you of my version of Inventor.

Surely you understand that a *.png is an image file and not an Inventor part file.  Good luck!
21Pom (Mechanical)
14 Apr 12 21:57
Hi rollupswx,

Two things,

1/  I do know how to constrain sketches but miss read your comment and thought it was a link showing how to construct what I was after.

2/  I tried to open the file in photoshop but it refused so I assumed wrongly that it was an Inventor file.

I may not be the sharpest tool in the box by any means but I do try and even before I ask for help I do spend some time trying to complete the problem.  I finally opened your file using Windows Photo View.  The top part of the image appears to be what I'm after.

Rgds,
Dave R.
rollupswx (Mechanical)
15 Apr 12 14:37
1 constrained sketch
1 extrude
1 revolve
(see attached image file)
rollupswx (Mechanical)
16 Apr 12 16:58
Maybe we can take this step-by-step.
Create a 4-sided polygon at the origin as shown.
Attach the file here.
21Pom (Mechanical)
16 Apr 12 18:39
Hi rollupswx,

The image you sent before is exactly what I'm after.  I spent several hours yesterday and into the evening trying to get it without success, it was only after I slept on it that I finally got it.  I think it was the revolution part that put me on the right track although I'm absolutely certain that my effort will be by far inferior to yours.

How I finally approached it was to create a sphere and then create 20mm circle sketches on various planes which I then cut extruded out from there.  It is a very long winded way to aproach the problem so, in my interest of learning more about Inventor, I would greatly appreciate the step-by-step approach you took.

Rgds
Dave R.
rollupswx (Mechanical)
16 Apr 12 21:17

Quote:

I would greatly appreciate the step-by-step approach you took.
You are going to laugh when you see how easy it really is.
Attach your square sketch part here as previously instructed.
21Pom (Mechanical)
16 Apr 12 22:18
Hi rollupswx,

I'll probably laugh with shame.  I had this before on something, can't think what it was now, and when I saw how easy it was I felt such a fool.

OK got the polygon in place.

Rgds, Dave R
21Pom (Mechanical)
16 Apr 12 22:22
rollupswx (Mechanical)
17 Apr 12 8:15
It appears that you are still doing too much work - get lazy.
Create the square using the polygon tool.
Set to 4 sides and click the origin and any distance away.
Add one horizontal constraint to any one of the lines.
Add the 20mm dimension.
Done with that sketch.
21Pom (Mechanical)
17 Apr 12 8:25
Hi rollupswx

OK done that - see attached.

Rgds,
Dave R
rollupswx (Mechanical)
17 Apr 12 9:32
I would have added the horizontal constraint only to a line - not to midpoint and origin.  The reason is covered in that document I linked earlier. Doesn't really matter for this case - but it is all about developing rock-solid techniques that never fail in an case.

Start Sketch2 and Project Geometry the 3 corner points shown with red arrows.  Sketch the arc and diagonal line shown in red.
 
rollupswx (Mechanical)
17 Apr 12 9:34
Extrude Sketch1 midplane (now called symmetric) and click on the 20mm dimension to set that as the extrude distance.
Helpful Member!  rollupswx (Mechanical)
17 Apr 12 9:36
Revolve the arc in Sketch2 and select Intersection as the Boolean result.

 
21Pom (Mechanical)
17 Apr 12 18:35
Hi rollupswx,

I don't know about laughing, I'm just shaking my head in amazement.  That's brilliant!!  Well I would never had worked that out. Like I said, it puts my effort to shame in no uncertain terms. It certainly opens up a whole new area to explore and see what else one can discover.

Once I got the idea of revolving the circle that inscribed the square I started to get some where in my own feeble way.

I again take my hat off to you and thank you for your help.

Rgds,
Dave R

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